January 3, 2018 - KB4056897 (Security-only update) Windows 7

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  1. Posts : 336
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64
       #90

    lehnerus2000 said:
    I had no issues with Avast Free AV.

    Note:
    My Destop machines have AMD Phenom II CPUs (they may have been immune to these update issues).

    See these posts:
    KB4073578 Update to Fix Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7
    KB4073578 Update to Fix Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7
    Have you tried installing KB4056894 yet? My main desktop has the same processor as you so I'd be interested to know how you got on. I'm leaving well alone for the moment, and the other update for .Net Framework (KB4055532) is unchecked so shouldn't be installed at the moment anyway.
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  2. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #91

    Hi antioch,

    How do you know?

    • Intel and the OEM's are handling spectre.


    • MS and WU are handling meltdown.

    I looked over your files and links and the only thing I can see is the version doesn't match, you're showing 3405 when on the asus site I see 3601, scroll down a bit to see your MB. I wouldn't be too concerned though, this situation is pretty fluid and even in the past 10days version numbers are bound to change.
    FOR THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION, PLEASE REMAIN CURRENT WITH UPDATES AND ADVISORIES FROM ASUS REGARDING YOUR EQUIPMENT AND SOFTWARE. THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THIS ADVISORY IS PROVIDED ON AS “AS IS” BASIS WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY OR GUARANTEE OF ANY KIND. ASUS RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE OR UPDATE THIS ADVISORY AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE.
    asus site
    Just keep checking this won't calm down for awhile:
    Forget about planning just for Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday of every month when Microsoft issues security updates to Windows users. As companies scramble to mitigate Meltdown and Spectre, you should be planning for Patch January, and maybe February as well. Case in point, ASUS, Gigabyte, and MSI have all now released firmware updates for a whole bunch of motherboard models.

    https://hothardware.com/news/asus-gi...d-bios-updates
    You look good to go if you haven't installed 6897 already.
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  3. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #92

    Monthly Security-Only Updates


    Anak said:
    Thanks lehnerus I had seen where the avast problem was hit or miss, the same with AMD's. The main reason this problem is so confusing.
    I manually download/install the W7 Monthly Security-Only Updates these days (usually after Brink has posted the links).

    Seffrid said:
    Have you tried installing KB4056894 yet? My main desktop has the same processor as you so I'd be interested to know how you got on. I'm leaving well alone for the moment, and the other update for .Net Framework (KB4055532) is unchecked so shouldn't be installed at the moment anyway.
    It seems that the auto-title retrieval function screwed up the links.
    They work in Preview mode but they break once they are Posted.

    KB4073578 Update to Fix Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7 (Post #2)

    No I didn't install KB4056894.


    I installed KB4056897 (Security-Only Update) & KB4073578.

    KB4073578 Update to Fix Unbootable state for AMD devices in Windows 7 (Post #4)


    You can get a nifty GUI tool from Gibson Research Corporation to check your PCs for Meltdown and Spectre.
    Here is a gHacks article:
    https://www.ghacks.net/2018/01/16/gi...rmance-checker
    Download:
    https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 18 Jan 2018 at 19:39. Reason: Quote Added, Links Added
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  4. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Professional SPI 64bit
       #93

    [QUOTE=lehnerus2000;3372741]I had no issues with Avast Free AV.

    Since updating security only[yes I only do that one on black Tuesdays] with 6897 and after restart and normal start, I now have a series of error events all related to Avast - trying to get that sorted - I may have to uninstall 6897 or do system restore. On the restart it took ages to reconfigure - over 5 minutes - never had that on previous months updates.
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  5. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Professional SPI 64bit
       #94

    Anak said:
    Hi antioch,

    You look good to go if you haven't installed 6897 already.
    I don't think I was 'good to go'

    See my reply to lehnerus - also after restart I went back to check for any further updates and was offered KB4055532 which I had installed on 14.01.18 along with the other .Net 4054998 which was not on offer and I did not install?? So I am about to flip a coin - heads I uninstall 6897 and reinstall or tails do a system restore.
    When I was on XP it was easy to get the update log files to check if install failed - where are they in WIN7?

    I hope to get some sense/answers from Avast once I have finished searching their forum.

    Hope to update soon.
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  6. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #95

    Sorry to hear you had problems it, looked okay, avast was updated and the key was set. If you don't get anything solid from the avast forum I've seen where users had success:



    • Install 6897.


    • reinstall avast.

    System restore should remove those avast errors.

    The update log files are at: C:\Windows\Logs\CBS For more info see #4 Log Collection: Windows Update Posting Instructions Sometimes you'll see a checksur file, that is created when you run the SURT tool in #1.

    This may interest you: Windows Update Manifests - Manually Trace Through Registry
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  7. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Professional SPI 64bit
       #96

    Hi Anak
    I left 6897 for the time being - but got rid of the .Net which was for Servers only?
    Uninstalled - re-installed updated Avast - all seems OK -quality compat is still in the reg.
    No errors - have been switching on and off.
    Didn't need to do system restore. I have had no further offers of updates - thank goodness.

    I looked at the Logs - not user friendly - I could not even spot the KB number - saw a lot of references to AMD64????

    Is #4 Log Collection, the 4th folder under CBS @ #1? - no sign of it - a search didn't locate it either.

    I am away for the weekend - will give the computer a rest.
    Many thanks for your continued help.

    Rgds
    Antioch
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  8. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #97

    Weird


    antioch said:
    lehnerus2000 said:
    I had no issues with Avast Free AV.
    Since updating security only[yes I only do that one on black Tuesdays] with 6897 and after restart and normal start, I now have a series of error events all related to Avast - trying to get that sorted - I may have to uninstall 6897 or do system restore. On the restart it took ages to reconfigure - over 5 minutes - never had that on previous months updates.
    My Event Viewer seems to be displaying the normal warnings.

    I did have a couple of BSODs the other day, but I'm sure that was related to a different piece of software (it's caused issues in the past).
    A couple of BSODs every few months is an acceptable trade-off for receiving $20/month. :)

    Your issue must be due to the combination of hardware/software on your PC (same as the users who claim Firefox crashes constantly on their systems).

    Did MS re-release the Monthly patches (KB4056897 & KB4056894) after the AMD issue was reported?
    I deleted the original downloads when I read there were problems and I downloaded a new copy of KB4056897 before I tried installing it.
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  9. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #98

    lehnerus2000 said:
    Did MS re-release the Monthly patches (KB4056897 & KB4056894) after the AMD issue was reported?
    I deleted the original downloads when I read there were problems and I downloaded a new copy of KB4056897 before I tried installing it.
    I haven't seen any mention of either being reissued yet. I just had a look on the Update Catalog and it's still listed as 4th January release date.

    So, it's still on my waiting list!

    Microsoft Update Catalog
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  10. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #99

    My answers are at the bullets.

    antioch said:
    Hi Anak
    I left 6897 for the time being - but got rid of the .Net which was for Servers only?

    • Re-read the title it should say, for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1.

    Uninstalled - re-installed updated Avast - all seems OK -quality compat is still in the reg.
    No errors - have been switching on and off.
    Didn't need to do system restore. I have had no further offers of updates - thank goodness.

    I looked at the Logs - not user friendly - I could not even spot the KB number - saw a lot of references to AMD64????

    • You're right, it's not. It takes a lot of experience to know what looks out of place. This thread may offer insight: How to analyse the CBS.log There are some attachment pix that aren't showing because it is an old thread and I believe the forum team goes through threads that are a year or two old in order to lighten the load on the server.


    • What is AMD64? AMD64 is just a reference to AMD's help in building the 64bit architecture.

    Is #4 Log Collection, the 4th folder under CBS @ #1? - no sign of it - a search didn't locate it either.


    I am away for the weekend - will give the computer a rest.
    Many thanks for your continued help.

    Rgds
    Antioch

    • You're welcome and enjoy your break!
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