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Windows 7: Market Share March 2018

07 Mar 2018   #11
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
To keep my W10 Pro VM under my control, I use Linux Mint 18.3 and VMware Player (virtual network disabled). :)

Most of the time I'm using W7 and VMware Workstation for my VMs (XP, W7 & Linux) but my Workstation is too old to run W10.
Does VMWare Player allow the VM to share the host's hard drive if you have the virtual network disabled?

Also, do you EVER do updates on Windows 10?


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07 Mar 2018   #12
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

Market share is beginning to show an increase in the demand for Windows 10 over Windows 7, because the bulk of Windows users are in the enterprise and government (approx. 90%). They are migrating in larger numbers to W10 in 2018-19 due to their business agreements with Microsoft. The market share will shift dramatically toward W10 based on business demand, not based on choice or preference for one OS version over another. The fact that all new Windows hardware comes with W10 on board is also reflected in these numbers.

The enterprise and government face crippling support costs and security exposure if they do not migrate to W10. That is a compelling reason to migrate.

We should not be regarding these statistics as having anything to do with product satisfaction or user driven demand. This is a tightly controlled market, with 10% being individuals and 90% being non-individuals (e.g. employees).

The consumer gets to determine their own fate. Even if 1 million consumers jumped ship, it would only be a blip to Microsoft's W10 adoption. W10 is just one choice for these users. New hardware is the only limiting factor.
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07 Mar 2018   #13
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Painter View Post

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This is a tightly controlled market, with 10% being individuals and 90% being non-individuals (e.g. employees).

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One other thing, of the 10% of those who have a choice, because they are not employees, only less than 1% are pros or enthusiasts who actually make a choice rather than just use what comes with the system they purchase.

Of course most pros and enthusiasts would be likely to run multiple operating systems and thus appear more than once either for one OS or more likely for different OS variations and Types
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07 Mar 2018   #14
Painter

W7Pro/64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
One other thing, of the 10% of those who have a choice, because they are not employees, only less than 1% are pros or enthusiasts who actually make a choice rather than just use what comes with the system they purchase.

Of course most pros and enthusiasts would be likely to run multiple operating systems and thus appear more than once either for one OS or more likely for different OS variations and Types
That is for sure. More knowledgeable users not only run multiple Windows operating systems, they probably also use competitor's products and the freebies. VMs are popular with more savvy users, but this usage is not reflected in the usage numbers. There are also several non-internet connected systems in industry and now a significantly greater number in government ... these systems need not migrate either. Of course, we will never know how many there are as the two companies that collect the market share stats rely on an internet presence. Devices produced/sold is what Microsoft uses when they tally their market share, but they do not share that info with the public on a monthly basis. These numbers are probably useful in competitive sales situations, partner deliberations or at shareholder meetings.
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07 Mar 2018   #15
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
Does VMWare Player allow the VM to share the host's hard drive if you have the virtual network disabled?
I haven't tried attaching a real HDD to my W10 Pro VM. :)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
Also, do you EVER do updates on Windows 10?
I was installing updates/upgrades until the 1709 Upgrade broke it (continuous upgrade failure loop).

Yesterday I copied my backup W10 Pro VM (1703) onto my SSD.

Additional
Here we go again!
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/03/08/re...indows-update/


I need to install Visual Studio in W10 to complete my UWP subject for TAFE.
I can't afford to spend hours every day fixing update/upgrade issues, so I'm going to disable Windows Update.
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09 Mar 2018   #16
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro & Ultimate (64-Bit) Retail, Windows 8.1 Pro (64-Bit) Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
So long as they keep it to Windows 10 I have no issue with it!
Users should have known what they were getting into when they chose to install an OS with forced updates. To be honest, I'm surprised MS didn't start doing this earlier!
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09 Mar 2018   #17
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
Users should have known what they were getting into when they chose to install an OS with forced updates. To be honest, I'm surprised MS didn't start doing this earlier!
How in the world would most users have known this? Microsoft has never, ever done forced updates until now.

I don't think most geeks were expecting this, let alone the regular folks who don't make it their point to keep up with all of these issues.
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09 Mar 2018   #18
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Yesterday I copied my backup W10 Pro VM (1703) onto my SSD.
How well does Windows 10 work when you install and run it in a VM? I'm sure it can't get beyond the bounds of the VM to do any mischief in the host OS. Has that been your experience?

And will it continue to run without any problem if you totally disconnect it from the internet?
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09 Mar 2018   #19
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro & Ultimate (64-Bit) Retail, Windows 8.1 Pro (64-Bit) Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
How in the world would most users have known this? Microsoft has never, ever done forced updates until now.

I don't think most geeks were expecting this, let alone the regular folks who don't make it their point to keep up with all of these issues.
You're telling me Windows 10 home doesn't have forced updates? It's had them from day one!

Pro version also has them, those users just have a little more control as to when they're installed. You can delay an update, you can't just refuse it unlike Windows 7 & 8.1.
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09 Mar 2018   #20
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7 View Post
You're telling me Windows 10 home doesn't have forced updates? It's had them from day one!
That's not what I meant. What I meant was that during the pre-Windows 10 era, there were no forced updates. The Windows 10 era is a whole new world - it's different than what people have always known with regard to Microsoft's way of doing things.
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