Windows 7 End of Support

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  1. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #110

    I can't see Google dropping Chrome support on 7 for at least a couple of years. So, I wouldn't worry about that for now.

    As for IE, if you're not going to use it, you can just disable it from the control panel. Under "Programs and Features" click "Turn Windows Features on or off" and uncheck Internet Explorer. It doesn't completely remove it, but does disable it.
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  2. Posts : 233
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
       #111

    Brds7t7 said:
    I can't see Google dropping Chrome support on 7 for at least a couple of years. So, I wouldn't worry about that for now.

    As for IE, if you're not going to use it, you can just disable it from the control panel. Under "Programs and Features" click "Turn Windows Features on or off" and uncheck Internet Explorer. It doesn't completely remove it, but does disable it.

    Thanks for that, I feel the plan is coming together now.

    It would be interesting to hear from XP users who continued to use the OS after support ended, to see what their experience was like.

    LB
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  3. Posts : 1,797
    Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
       #112

    After 7 was released, I didn't use XP on any systems other than VMs. But, I had no issues using it even without the security updates. I still used an XP VM until last year. But, I have a lot of boxed retail versions of 7 and I found myself using XP less and less, so eventually deleted it. There are still some businesses using XP today.

    Here in the UK, I believe there are parts of the NHS still using XP systems, or at least they were until quite recently. Even after the EOL in 2014, they still pushed out a security update for the SMB1 Wannacry ransomware/exploit in 2017.

    I have a feeling 7 will be around after EOL even longer than XP was. 7 still has a big user share. It'll take a while to kill it off.
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  4. Posts : 503
    Windows 7 x64 SP1
       #113

    A thought which occurred to me recently, if you're going to use W7 beyond EOL, and plan to keep it offline: What about reinstalling (with SP1 disc) and then not updating? you would then have a "perfect" system, free of malware and uncorrupted by Windows updates. If you were only going to use it for Office, e.g. you could install just Office updates to get up to speed. I still have a W98 computer, which was never updated, because it was never online. I recently reinstalled W98 (quite an experience, I had to use a tutorial), and it boots really fast and is quite snappy. A W7 in this condition would be even better. It could be forever, provided you only used it for specific purposes.
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  5. Posts : 233
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit (Service Pack 1)
       #114

    michael diemer said:
    A thought which occurred to me recently, if you're going to use W7 beyond EOL, and plan to keep it offline: What about reinstalling (with SP1 disc) and then not updating? you would then have a "perfect" system, free of malware and uncorrupted by Windows updates. If you were only going to use it for Office, e.g. you could install just Office updates to get up to speed. I still have a W98 computer, which was never updated, because it was never online. I recently reinstalled W98 (quite an experience, I had to use a tutorial), and it boots really fast and is quite snappy. A W7 in this condition would be even better. It could be forever, provided you only used it for specific purposes.
    The Sony laptop has Never been connected to the net so it has never received updates and has never been exposed to potential malware. It had Office 2007 put on from new, that's never had updates either. It all works perfectly, and is super quick and is only used for docs/photos/music. And yes, I hope it is forever.
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  6. Posts : 2
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #115

    Personally,i will continue using w7 after EOL.I can say that w7 is the best os that i have ever used,from all the sides(compatibility-stability).The only "update" that i did was the "service pack 1"
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  7. Posts : 83
    win7 64bit Ult. using: XP Mode, in English or Español, SUA, Bitlocker
       #116

    IliasGR said:
    Personally,i will continue using w7 after EOL.I can say that w7 is the best os that i have ever used,from all the sides(compatibility-stability).The only "update" that i did was the "service pack 1"

    Makes sense.... Windows 7 is still immensely popular... According to a google search, as of last month - March 2019, Win7 is still on 35% of all computers worldwide. Desktop Windows Version Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats


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  8. Posts : 2
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #117

    dperecky said:
    Makes sense.... Windows 7 is still immensely popular... According to a google search, as of last month - March 2019, Win7 is still on 35% of all computers worldwide. Desktop Windows Version Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats



    Yeah and keep in mind,the "tricks" that MS did to force users to upgrade to w10.Without this "force" the difference could be lower.
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  9. Posts : 21
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro, Windows 10pro
       #118

    Installing the Roll out as I type


    I had to call MS for some tech help and it was amusing how he kept trying to get me to say "So you want to upgrade to Windows 10". I had to YELL at him and say no, I didn't. I subscribe to Assure, so even with Windows 7, if I have a problem, it gets seen to. If it's Windows XP (run it on my Win 7 as a VM) I hear much sighing and tongue clicking, but still get assistance if needed.

    As for Win 7 or XP not being secure, untrue. There are software makers that plug the holes and prevent shenanigans from hackers, hijackers, and malware writers.

    As it stand now, the only thing I had trouble with is the Win10 drive (dual boot system). It refuses to update, task manager wouldn't run, and out of the blue, blue tooth drivers stopped loading (they're signed by Win 10 insists they aren't, and yes, I have tried disabling signing to no avail) . Their idea is to wipe everything and do a refresh. Problem is, I have some software that is charged per installation, not per machine. Turns out my Surface Pro had same version and release as my Win10 drive, so I copied task manager over, and it works fine now. Only issue, can't install Cumulative Updates and bluetooth drivers won't load. I will probably end up reinstalling but not yet.
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  10. Posts : 27
    Windows 7 Professional - 64 Bit
       #119

    Greetings,

    I am not very knowledgeable about Microsoft as a company and the reasons why they do the things they do, but from a business perspective - I would appreciate if someone here can explain something to me beyond Microsoft being the devil.

    So clearly Microsoft is aware like millions of computer users that Windows XP and Windows 7 have been incredibly popular to the point where they know users didn't want to give them up for what Windows released next in Vista, 8 and 10. Basically the attitude for XP and 7 has been "from my cold dead hands" in terms of giving up those operating systems for the junk that Windows replaced them with.

    Now since Microsoft have this knowledge, as a business wanting to be able to compete with Apple among others and keep their customers happy - why are they not giving people a modern version of XP and 7. Basically all the things you loved about XP and 7, but with 2019 technology features. It seems like a no-brainer. Give the customer want they want and watch all the praise you will get and money. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    It just doesn't make sense from a business perspective to say OK, people obviously love what we did with XP and 7, so let's totally screw people over with 10 and give them something that they are going to hate. It would be like any other business taking their most popular product and changing it for no reason or a restaurant taking their most popular dish and changing it to something that makes it not the same. It's moronic.

    Post Cereal learned this the hard way, when they changed Honey Comb cereal to a new version. People hated it and like New Coke, Post Cereal returned almost immediately to the classic Honey Comb cereal.

    So can someone explain from a business perspective - why Microsoft isn't having board meetings saying let's just give people a 2020 version of Windows 7. It is what people want and they will buy the hell out of it if it determined by reviews that it really is a modern version of 7 in every way.

    Thanks!
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