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16 Sep 2018
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#21
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Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000
I suspect that by 2023, a lot of local OS functions will have been transferred to the Cloud, specifically to prevent users from controlling their own PCs. 
I also suspect that M$ is heading somewhere that will at the very least be controversial. If it isn't everything in the cloud or selling our stats, it could be renting the OS and/or showing ads everywhere. It could be something even worse than that. They have to have a plan for making up that lost revenue from giving it away for a year. They have something up their sleeve and it'll not be pretty but those on 10 with their forced upgrades will have no choice but to deal with it. The average end user isn't going to care to put linux on their computer and it is already next to impossible to have 7 or 8.1 on new computers thanks to a secret agreement between m$ and Intel.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Mid 2010 iMac
OS Windows 7 pro 64-bit sp 1
CPU Intel Core i3 550 Quad core 3.2 ghz.
Memory 8 gb
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB ram
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900.
Hard Drives WDC WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 ATA Device 1 TB
Antivirus MSE
Browser FF of course.
Other Info Virtual machines for XP pro, Vista Ultimate, 8.1 industry pro, and windows server 2000-2016.
16 Sep 2018
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#22
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Technically Windows has always been rented software, even in older Windows versions. You buy the licence, but it's only giving you the right to use their software. You're still bound by the EULA terms.
I also think that there will be more ads and annoyances baked into Windows 10 further down the line. I expect them to lock it down a little more too. If I'm proved wrong, then I'll happily start using it. I have no desire to right now though. I run it in a VM and to be honest it hardly ever gets used/booted up.
Intel and MS are trying their hardest to get people on to 10, including blocking the updates, which work perfectly on older Windows versions with newer chips. So there is no reason to do it, other than just being awkward! I've noticed certain Windows 7 drivers are difficult to find now on Intel's site. I had to get one for a friend's system from a 3rd party site. If the OS is still supported then drivers should still be readily available for it until its EOL.
At least there are workarounds for these issues (for now anyway).
It's testament to how much people like 7. MS has tried many different methods to get people to upgrade and they have always found ways to get around it. If people weren't convinced by a "free" upgrade, then they're unlikely to switch easily until they really have no other option.
I really don't need all the "bells and whistles" that Windows 10 has to offer. I can do all the same things I do on a daily basis with both 7 and 8.1 and with less distractions.
As long as it keeps running the software I use, then I'm good with what I have.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
CPU Intel i5 4690K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB DDR3
Graphics Card MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Sound Card Onboard
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB LUX
Mouse Corsair Sabre RGB
PSU Corsair HX750i
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO on CPU, Noctua Redux NF-P14S 1500rpm (x6)
Hard Drives Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (x2)
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm (x2)
WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm Intellipark Disabled (x2)
Antivirus Avast Free, MalwareBytes, SAS & CryptoPrevent
Browser Chrome
Other Info StarTech PEXESAT322I 2 Port PCI-E RAID Card
(No RAID setup, only installed for extra SATA ports)
ASUS PCE-AC56 Dual-band AC1300 Wireless Card
Akasa FC.Six Manual Fan Controller
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree!
16 Sep 2018
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#23
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Pay-per-Click

Quote: Originally Posted by townsbg
I also suspect that M$ is heading somewhere that will at the very least be controversial. If it isn't everything in the cloud or selling our stats, it could be renting the OS and/or showing ads everywhere. It could be something even worse than that. They have to have a plan for making up that lost revenue from giving it away for a year.

Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7
I also think that there will be more ads and annoyances baked into Windows 10 further down the line. I expect them to lock it down a little more too.
I suspect that ultimately Windows will be turned into an Azure-based subscription OS (Pay-per-Click).
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a
OS W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory 12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Mouse Wired Optical
PSU Cooler Master
Case Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling 3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Hard Drives SanDisk 480 GB SSD, WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
Internet Speed DSL
Antivirus Avast
Browser Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info 2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
16 Sep 2018
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#24
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Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010
I'm pretty surprised the W7 die hards are not all over this!!!
W10 FTW 
End of support just means no more updates. Fine by me, what I have works. I have legacy hardware (Meade DSI just to name one) and software that goes with said hardware that Windows 8 and 10 would prevent from working. My custom built Win7 box is stable, everything works. I have no problem with using Surface Pro with Windows 10.
And before anyone starts about 'not secure'.. hogwash. It's not up to MS to keep my system secure, it's up to me. Haven't had any malware, hijackers, ransomware or viruses in over 18 years on different (through Win 95, 98, XP, Vista, 7, 8)
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro, Windows 10pro
CPU Xeon CPU E3-1231v3 3.40GHz
Motherboard Asus B85-Pro Gamer
Memory 32gb DDR4
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
Sound Card NVIDIA HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays HP E230T, Benq RL2455
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 (both monitors)
Keyboard Logitech G710+
Mouse Razer Death Adder (Lefthanded) Razer Naga Gaming mouse
PSU EVGA SuperNOVA B2 750W Power Supply
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro Chassis
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock CPU Cooler
Hard Drives Assorted Samsung, Toshiba, Western Digitials, Segates 16TB total at this time.
Internet Speed NBN
16 Sep 2018
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#25
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Right on, Sandra. I plan to continue using W7 on my music computer, keeping it offline most of the time, while doing my internet surfing on Linux. Which is what I already have been doing for a few years now. Kubuntu is my current favorite. Use W7 offline for Office or whatever you need it for. Use Linux for everything else. Easy.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway GT5656
OS Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory 6 GB
Graphics Card GeForce 8400GS
Monitor(s) Displays Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080
Keyboard Logitech wireless
Mouse Logitech wireless
PSU Antec VP450
Hard Drives WD Blue 500GB X2, Seagate Barracuda 500GB, Glyph 500GB external via firewire 400
Second drive has Vista 32 bits
Antivirus Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser Internet Explorer 11
17 Sep 2018
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#26
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Quote: Originally Posted by Brds7t7
Technically Windows has always been rented software, even in older Windows versions. You buy the licence, but it's only giving you the right to use their software. You're still bound by the EULA terms.
In terms of renting it I'm speculating about end users having to fork out money yearly or even monthly or you lose the ability to use it kind of like office 365. That's unprecedented. Previously you only had to pay for Windows when going from one version to another no less than about every 2-3 years. Even then that was optional although they did their best to get users to upgrade. If they go that route users will be forced to update to whatever version they implement it on by their horrid update system which is one of the reasons why I don't like it.
7 users weren't forced to go to 8 when it came out and either where forced onto 10 although they did try to trick and nag users into installing it. With each version they did make it harder to get it on new computers and withdrew support but users weren't forced to upgrade. They are heading down a dangerous path and I don't trust them. They will have to change their policies drastically for me to go to 10 and I highly doubt that they will do so.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Mid 2010 iMac
OS Windows 7 pro 64-bit sp 1
CPU Intel Core i3 550 Quad core 3.2 ghz.
Memory 8 gb
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB ram
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900.
Hard Drives WDC WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 ATA Device 1 TB
Antivirus MSE
Browser FF of course.
Other Info Virtual machines for XP pro, Vista Ultimate, 8.1 industry pro, and windows server 2000-2016.
Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
CPU Intel i5 4690K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB DDR3
Graphics Card MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Sound Card Onboard
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB LUX
Mouse Corsair Sabre RGB
PSU Corsair HX750i
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO on CPU, Noctua Redux NF-P14S 1500rpm (x6)
Hard Drives Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (x2)
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm (x2)
WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm Intellipark Disabled (x2)
Antivirus Avast Free, MalwareBytes, SAS & CryptoPrevent
Browser Chrome
Other Info StarTech PEXESAT322I 2 Port PCI-E RAID Card
(No RAID setup, only installed for extra SATA ports)
ASUS PCE-AC56 Dual-band AC1300 Wireless Card
Akasa FC.Six Manual Fan Controller
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree!
18 Sep 2018
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#28
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And So It Begins
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a
OS W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory 12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Mouse Wired Optical
PSU Cooler Master
Case Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling 3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Hard Drives SanDisk 480 GB SSD, WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
Internet Speed DSL
Antivirus Avast
Browser Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info 2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
19 Sep 2018
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#29
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So computers are heading to a cloud based portal for which we are given a terminal and won't be able to do anything without access. All for the low price of $20 per month.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Mid 2010 iMac
OS Windows 7 pro 64-bit sp 1
CPU Intel Core i3 550 Quad core 3.2 ghz.
Memory 8 gb
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB ram
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900.
Hard Drives WDC WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 ATA Device 1 TB
Antivirus MSE
Browser FF of course.
Other Info Virtual machines for XP pro, Vista Ultimate, 8.1 industry pro, and windows server 2000-2016.
19 Sep 2018
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#30
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It'll be the final nail in the coffin for me if it switches to a purely subscription based service. Seems like everything is going that way these days, but no way will I pay a sub for it. There are other alternatives.
Wonder if I can keep running Windows 7 for the next 20 years?
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win 7 Ultimate, Win 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint 19 Cinnamon (All 64-Bit)
CPU Intel i5 4690K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
Memory Corsair Vengeance LP 32GB DDR3
Graphics Card MSI GTX 1060 GAMING X 6GB
Sound Card Onboard
Keyboard Corsair K70 RGB LUX
Mouse Corsair Sabre RGB
PSU Corsair HX750i
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro
Cooling CM Hyper 212 EVO on CPU, Noctua Redux NF-P14S 1500rpm (x6)
Hard Drives Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (x2)
WD Blue 1TB 7200rpm (x2)
WD Blue 2TB 5400rpm Intellipark Disabled (x2)
Antivirus Avast Free, MalwareBytes, SAS & CryptoPrevent
Browser Chrome
Other Info StarTech PEXESAT322I 2 Port PCI-E RAID Card
(No RAID setup, only installed for extra SATA ports)
ASUS PCE-AC56 Dual-band AC1300 Wireless Card
Akasa FC.Six Manual Fan Controller
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree!
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