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Windows 7: Windows 7 and Office 2010 End of Support

14 Mar 2019   #71
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
W10 being a total spyware with more transmitted than ever to M$FT and less letter orgs, and many old apps not working anymore pre-95 to xp/32 etc, it may be only possible to virtualize W7 (and xp) and forget about w10 completely, running linux mint or so as the fundamental layer upon which the VMs run.
This is partially a necessity, since nothing is as complete as office 2007 (incl good old xml) incl full integration of bcm and accounting pro (no need for dynamics), etc.
Any ideas on this?
Any ideas on what? I didn't understand any of that.


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14 Mar 2019   #72
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Any ideas on what? I didn't understand any of that.
Any ideas re any issue/point (and of course how to do it better than upgrading to w10 or linux as base and VMs on top).

What specifically did you not understand? If "all", then please reread and pick s/t specific.
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14 Mar 2019   #73
dperecky

win7 64bit Ult. using: XP Mode, in English or Español, SUA, Bitlocker
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
W10 being a total spyware with more transmitted than ever to M$FT and less letter orgs, and many old apps not working anymore pre-95 to xp/32 etc, it may be only possible to virtualize W7 (and xp) and forget about w10 completely, running linux mint or so as the fundamental layer upon which the VMs run.
This is partially a necessity, since nothing is as complete as office 2007 (incl good old xml) incl full integration of bcm and accounting pro (no need for dynamics), etc.
Any ideas on this?

W10 IMO works Ok on a tablet.... Cover the camera when not in use. May have to upgrade to W10 at a later date for the primary computer.

Right now, using Win7 (and XP Virt) and just downloaded VirtualBox and Lubuntu as the guest for security reasons (in theory, all logged on accounts should be ran in there).
A little reversed of what you have... same basic idea.
It works well... but had bumped up the RAM for performance reasons. The RAM was over $100... so probably when I get a new computer... I'll be looking for one that accepts these two 8G RAM Simms... so that they don't go to waste.
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14 Mar 2019   #74
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
Any ideas re any issue/point (and of course how to do it better than upgrading to w10 or linux as base and VMs on top).

What specifically did you not understand? If "all", then please reread and pick s/t specific.
How can I get specific when I didn't understand any of it?
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15 Mar 2019   #75
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
How can I get specific when I didn't understand any of it?
As explained before: »If "all", then please reread and pick s/t specific.«
So, you could start with the first thing you did not understand, and ask a specific question about it.
Still difficult? Then take a break, and come back to it later if you feel like it, or not, up to you, of course

To spare you the search for it:
'W10 being a total spyware with more transmitted than ever to M$FT and less letter orgs, and many old apps not working anymore pre-95 to xp/32 etc, it may be only possible to virtualize W7 (and xp) and forget about w10 completely, running linux mint or so as the fundamental layer upon which the VMs run.
This is partially a necessity, since nothing is as complete as office 2007 (incl good old xml) incl full integration of bcm and accounting pro (no need for dynamics), etc.
Any ideas on this?'
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15 Mar 2019   #76
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dperecky View Post
W10 IMO works Ok on a tablet.... Cover the camera when not in use. May have to upgrade to W10 at a later date for the primary computer.

Right now, using Win7 (and XP Virt) and just downloaded VirtualBox and Lubuntu as the guest for security reasons (in theory, all logged on accounts should be ran in there).
A little reversed of what you have... same basic idea.
It works well... but had bumped up the RAM for performance reasons. The RAM was over $100... so probably when I get a new computer... I'll be looking for one that accepts these two 8G RAM Simms... so that they don't go to waste.
I see. Well, yes, VMs inside windows is possible. I was concerned with the whole spying thingy in windows 10, since that would be then fundamental and around each VM. With linux as base layer that can be avoided I thought.

Recently I found out by chance that there is so much transmitted without knowledge of the user, that I am not sure how anyone can tolerate it:
Antonio Kowatsch – Medium
Remove telemetry updates for Windows 7 and 8.1 . GitHub
Microsoft's Software - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation
Would be great if this could be debunked thoroughly, ie with scientifically accepted proof.

What should one do about all the apps that run under xp and 7, but cannot run under 10?
Many old apps not working anymore pre-95 to xp/32, do you have a solution for that?
All a huge investment and useful since a long time, just throw them away because someone forces an update? And all the hours of adjustments until all works? It is great if one does not have such vested interests, then upgrading seems easier.

Hope you can easily find the right hardware fit for your RAM components. Some really good deals are out there from leasing companies, when their assets come out of the oft three year limited term corporate contracts.

Many thanks for your input and ideas, much appreciated.
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15 Mar 2019   #77
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Running Windows inside of Linux is very doable, and this way Windows is "sandboxed" inside Linux and thus much safer from malware. Some people also plan to just keep using Windows 7, but offline, using Linux for online work. Or even going online with Windows, but with an abundance of caution.


If you are going to do the VM thing, I would recommend a Linux distro that is fast, as Windows will be slower as a VM. MX Linux, Ubuntu Mate and Mint would all be good choices. In general, lighter distos tend to be faster. Ubuntu Mate is one of the lighter ones. Mint Mate and Mint XFCE are also good choices for lighter systems.
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15 Mar 2019   #78
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by michael diemer View Post
Running Windows inside of Linux is very doable, and this way Windows is "sandboxed" inside Linux and thus much safer from malware. Some people also plan to just keep using Windows 7, but offline, using Linux for online work. Or even going online with Windows, but with an abundance of caution.


If you are going to do the VM thing, I would recommend a Linux distro that is fast, as Windows will be slower as a VM. MX Linux, Ubuntu Mate and Mint would all be good choices. In general, lighter distos tend to be faster. Ubuntu Mate is one of the lighter ones. Mint Mate and Mint XFCE are also good choices for lighter systems.
sounds good!

# mint xfce would be my choice as base layer (xfce for it is one of the best developed, stable, old, compatible, etc)
# xp, 7, etc in VMs
# 1-2 cores for mint, 6+ for the rest

thank you :)
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15 Mar 2019   #79
townsbg

Windows 7 pro 64-bit sp 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
As explained before: »If "all", then please reread and pick s/t specific.«
So, you could start with the first thing you did not understand, and ask a specific question about it.
Still difficult? Then take a break, and come back to it later if you feel like it, or not, up to you, of course
I'm with Lady Fitzgerald. With 3 run-on sentences in a row, all seeming to be statements rather than questions, it is confusing to know just what you are asking. So if you would please ask your question more directly rather than make 3 long, random statements and assume that we understand what you are asking. "Any ideas on this?" Any ideas on what? What topic are you asking about? Also that kind of put down can really discourage people from helping in the future.
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16 Mar 2019   #80
michael diemer

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
sounds good!

# mint xfce would be my choice as base layer (xfce for it is one of the best developed, stable, old, compatible, etc)
# xp, 7, etc in VMs
# 1-2 cores for mint, 6+ for the rest

thank you :)
XFCE is a great choice. That was my favorite Mint desktop, although Cinnamon is nice too. Just depends on your system. older systems with less ram do better with a lighter distro. ("distro" refers to a Linux OS, like Ubuntu or Mint. "desktop environment" refers to the GUI. mint is a distro. Mate and XFCE are DE's.).
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