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Windows 7: Windows 7 and Office 2010 End of Support

1 Week Ago   #81
Windower7

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MourningStar View Post
is it because we know W10 will be in the history books in 2020?

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HELL YEAHHHHHH!!!


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5 Days Ago   #82
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by townsbg View Post
I'm with Lady Fitzgerald. With 3 run-on sentences in a row, all seeming to be statements rather than questions, it is confusing to know just what you are asking. So if you would please ask your question more directly rather than make 3 long, random statements and assume that we understand what you are asking. "Any ideas on this?" Any ideas on what? What topic are you asking about? Also that kind of put down can really discourage people from helping in the future.
Trying to understand what you mean.

It is not three random statements, but all statements describe how I feel about the 'not-so-clear-path-forward-with-w10' / 'not-so-clear-path-forward-after-w7-support-end'.
The 'any ideas on this' clearly is re the previous writing. The topic is the one of the thread: w10 imminent, end of w7 support, etc/all consequences.
There is also no put down, not at all. Rather, asking general questions is not useful at all. It is easy to be specific in questions.
And as it is an open question, and there is no specific error or problem, but rather an open discussion about computing future (see thread topic), there is no way anyone should feel discouraged. You have ideas re those statements and implications, or not - both ok.

Perhaps just take the statements as hypotheses (how to move forward without loosing all investments made into xp and w7) and the question at the end like an encouragement (to share ideas) to find a better solution.
Put differently: here is my opinion, try to top it by providing a better idea (i.e. solution). Kinda daring, desperate (since moving to w10 would seem the easy, but almost clearly wrong, way - remember, vista was not so good too).
Hope this helps :)

PS: Just saw that additional info here.
Perhaps that helps too :)
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5 Days Ago   #83
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Windows 9x was built c.20 years ago on 16 Bit processors which is no longer supported with modern hardware

XP 32 will not run modern 64 bit code. and ...

Although a 64 bit processor will run a 32 bit code it will not run the 16 bit code that was used to install and run various programs under xp

There was a 64 bit version of XP but very few developers supported it.

You do not appear to be familiar with forum etiquette - In you first post you bemoan the loss of bcm, without explaining what the acronym means a quick check gives 96 possibilities BCM - What does BCM stand for? The Free Dictionary I'm sure there are more. I assume you are discussing the badly written Business contact manager, which was included with some old Office versions, but was never possible with business users so ws dropped and the functions transferred to Outlook and Exchange

Telemetry is not spying it's the process of using closed loop control to improve the efficiency of a system. It's what keeps a race car [and a family sedan] on the road, it keeps an aircraft in the air, and it keeps the basic processes of windows operating systems working efficiently It is used in XP onwards.
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4 Days Ago   #84
svnfrms2r

w7u64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Windows 9x was built c.20 years ago on 16 Bit processors which is no longer supported with modern hardware

XP 32 will not run modern 64 bit code. and ...

Although a 64 bit processor will run a 32 bit code it will not run the 16 bit code that was used to install and run various programs under xp

There was a 64 bit version of XP but very few developers supported it.
Yes, and in w7 there are compatibility options to to run programs even from w95, while in w10 this seems not to be possible, hence the question: how to deal with this?



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
You do not appear to be familiar with forum etiquette - In you first post you bemoan the loss of bcm, without explaining what the acronym means a quick check gives 96 possibilities BCM - What does BCM stand for? The Free Dictionary I'm sure there are more.
I think you are right, spelling out what BCM stands for here would have been quicker for a reader not oft dealing with it (BCM - Business Contact Manager), probably happened, since I stated "Business Contact Manager" elsewhere on the forum before, but that is not an excuse, only an explanation.
In the end, I would think the key is in the context of "nothing is as complete as office 2007 (incl good old xml) incl full integration of bcm and accounting pro".
Without such context, the acronym "BCM" is much harder to understand, and your find of 96 options makes complete sense.



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
I assume you are discussing the badly written Business contact manager, which was included with some old Office versions, but was never possible with business users so ws dropped and the functions transferred to Outlook and Exchange
As BCM is loved by many, so much, that MSFT did release follow-on versions (BCM 2010 is even free, but limited), just later left out the integration with office accounting, since they want to sell (understandably) the CRM 'dynamics' where they make much higher margins, while BCM+Accounting Pro did not have limits at first, and the office 2007 (mso2007) + bcm + accounting pro (msoap) had the best integration. It is a system used by many still, and by amazing companies, who do their research (and could afford dynamics or salesforce or others, but they chose mso2007+bcm+msoap). It is the new online office/outlook where similar functions do not work properly or not at all. Never heard that Exchange would have good BCM functions, would be happy to see more about that.
On the other hand, I would be very happy to learn what is bad about BCM and msoap as well as learn truly better alternatives (cost, functionality, workflow, etc), any ideas on this?



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Telemetry is not spying it's the process of using closed loop control to improve the efficiency of a system. It's what keeps a race car [and a family sedan] on the road, it keeps an aircraft in the air, and it keeps the basic processes of windows operating systems working efficiently It is used in XP onwards.
It all depends how much private info is transmitted, if the subjects know about it fully, if they consented fully, if they can get a full copy of all the transmissions, etc.
There are many sources that explain it goes way to far, some of which were posted.
I would agree that all technically necessary info without privacy breaching data could be transmitted safely for making systems run well.



Please do let me know if anything needs amendment in the above.
Thank you.
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1 Day Ago   #85
dperecky

win7 64bit Ult. using: XP Mode, in English or Español, SUA, Bitlocker
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by svnfrms2r View Post
As explained before: »If "all", then please reread and pick s/t specific.«
So, you could start with the first thing you did not understand, and ask a specific question about it.
Still difficult? Then take a break, and come back to it later if you feel like it, or not, up to you, of course

To spare you the search for it:
'W10 being a total spyware with more transmitted than ever to M$FT and less letter orgs, and many old apps not working anymore pre-95 to xp/32 etc, it may be only possible to virtualize W7 (and xp) and forget about w10 completely, running linux mint or so as the fundamental layer upon which the VMs run.
This is partially a necessity, since nothing is as complete as office 2007 (incl good old xml) incl full integration of bcm and accounting pro (no need for dynamics), etc.
Any ideas on this?'
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Run in compatibility mode. Troubleshoot compatibility.

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