Feds blame Windows 7 and lax security for Oldsmar facility hack

    Feds blame Windows 7 and lax security for Oldsmar facility hack


    Posted: 22 Feb 2021
    Feds blame W7 & lax security for Oldsmar facility hack:

    FBI urges government to update Windows OS after Oldsmar water hack - Axios
    Posted By: XLR8TX
    22 Feb 2021



  1. Posts : 644
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #1

    From the link, I think the part I have put in bold was by far the biggest risk factor...

    ...the system, which was running on Windows 7 with every person using the same password...
    ...and totally unbelievable that anyone could think it was secure!
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  2. Posts : 0
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #2

    LMAO! No, really. L-M-A-O. The cure all here is not an upgraded OS based on the vector. It's as if the FBI has been working with Redmond or something because it's twice now the FBI has said to update your OS beyond Windows 7.

    Lets point out the pertinent from this article that is spewing hyperbole for the Win 10 upgrade crew.

    Investigators suspect a desktop-sharing software was likely used to access the system...
    Question:

    A) Was it Team Viewer with no 2FA by chance?

    B) Was there any CVE for this software? Was the code even code signed?

    Answer:

    A) This is your obvious vector. Not the OS its self.


    which was running on Windows 7 with every person using the same password.
    Question:

    A) Was the password complex?

    B) Was it in a massive leaked database?

    Answer:

    A) If not A or is equal to B then assume C.

    C) Yo ass just got owned and tea bagged. Enjoy the bad breath.


    Now to the crux of the issue. You can go to Shodan and find how insecure SCADA systems are over hell. In the U.S., UK, Germany, Romania, you freaking name it. If there are any CVEs or weak passwords, Hydra will crack it wide open. This is just a taste of what could be and we need a cybersecurity consortium of white hat hackers and computer scientists to come together and formulate ideas on fixing the crap we have now otherwise we will have a COVID-21 so to speak except it will be cyber related. Plan on using your computer or anything that depends on electricity? Kiss its ass goodbye. Just look at what could happen as a microcosm from the small incident in Texas with ice. That was just mother nature in one location.

    Don't even get me started on modernizing the electrical grid and hardening the electrical grid from a CME from the sun. The last event was in the mid 1860s and it WILL happen again. Since everything is highly dependent on electricity it will be a massive SHTF scenario on so many levels. If it's cold you freeze to death, if it's hot you die from heatstroke. Can't buy food due to no power at the store, the POS (Point Of Sale) terminal, ATMs are down, banks are down, your water is down, etc, etc, etc ad nauseam.

    Now lets point something out here that many may not know about Windows 10.

    Windows 7 was released in 2009 and I count at least 1,190 CVEs (Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures) (source) from 2009 (its inception) till now. But, many of these CVEs also describe Windows 10 and other versions. So to be fair lets just drastically and conservatively cut that number in half to 595. Remember that number. That's the approximate CVEs for Windows 7 since its inception till now.

    Lets now look at Windows 10. Windows 10 was released in 2015 and I count at least 1,073 CVEs from 2015 (its inception) till now. Add again, some of these CVEs cover Windows 7 and other Windows versions so lets drastically and conservatively cut that number in half to 536.

    So we see Windows 7 has around ~595 CVEs since its inception till now and Windows 10 already has around ~536 CVEs since its inception. Yet Windows 10 is only six years old and Windows 7 is a massive 12 years old. So we see here Windows 10 is already on par to Windows 7's CVEs for Windows 7's lifetime!

    So when people, especially your government say use Windows 10 because its more secure are full of shit. Yeah, they're patched but that's not the point at all. Point is how many other CVEs will come out of the wood work that will also need yet another cumbersome update that can and WILL hose your OS over and all of your data due to low QC (Quality Control)? And guess what? If it's free you're probably the product. I highly doubt a multi billion dollar company (currently $234.51 on NASDAQ wanted to be nice and just give a product away for free. No, I've recorded Windows 10 emanate TONS of Internet traffic from the NIC. At least 20 ASNs worth. This is what an ASN looks like. They represent whole swaths of CIDRs. https://bgp.he.net/AS8068#_prefixes So what does a /24 represent? 256 IP addresses. I count 20,992 IPs alone just for that one ASN. Did I mention Windows 10 using at least 20 ASNs? Yeah... Windows 7 or XP doesn't have any of that. Just a few IP hits for common stuff like Windows time, local network stuff, etc.


    Anyway, will you eventually have to use 10? Yes. But I'd strip the hell out of it with nLite or check out Windows 10 AME. Though, that's not for everyone. So far I'm happy with AME during my testing. That's just me.

    In the mean time, I downloaded the advisory in PDF format and will read it later. And remember. Seasons don't fear the reaper.
      My Computer


  3. Posts : 0
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #3

    Is it just me, or was I the only one that read lax as in the ICAO for Los Angeles International Airport? LOL!
      My Computer


 

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