Firefox End of Support for Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 on September 2024

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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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    SAVVYSCLUTTER said:
    Just change your user agent.
    This (spoofing the OS reported by the browser) is something i've been looking into for privacy reasons, along with using VxKex in conjunction with DXVK to get "non-supported" games to run on W7. You can look the latter method up on google, lots of people managing to get the newest games running on Windows 7 sans any issues. I've also seen Threadripper/Ryzen 9 builds running W7 without issues recently (for those saying W7 has issues with newer AMD CPU's, which is demonstrably false in the great majority of cases).

    Ultimately, anything made by M$ after W7 is a downgrade imo. Non-freedom-loving devs may chose to artifically restrict their programs from being run or updated on Windows 7 (*ahem* i'm looking at you, Librewolf), i will boycott them and switch to other ones instead. Thorium is a good example, its dev openly supports Windows 7. Same for Waterfox, Mypal and so on. Windows 7 will keep being viable as a daily driver for a very long time, especially as VxKex/the Extended Kernel project matures further and more people realize how screwed-up M$ has become with its anti-privacy stance since W7's release.
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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #11

    SAVVYSCLUTTER said:
    Just change your user agent.
    I already spoof my UA in Pale Moon (my main driver). This issue (thread) is not mine, it's everyone else's.

    When I personally go to my bank I use Firefox. Reason for that is that most websites that are coded with Google webcomponets and other fantastic Google shit (they don't have to) I have to use Fartfox or Ungoogled Chromium (Chrome without Google crap). It's actually better that way to use more than one browser anyway to minimize your leaked data collection...

    BTW- I've been spoofing my UA in the browser since circa 2007 in Firefox which at the time was a FANTASTIC browser. Today it's gone full on stupid... along with the CEO... Just look at that b888ch...
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  3. Posts : 50
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 64 bit
       #12

    F22 Simpilot said:
    Well, I'm sure some snot nose Google employee just read your post and will have that fixed in a jiffy (an actual unit of time I might add).

    To play devil's advocate, sooner or latter things need to be updated. I mean, take the example of how you can't game or hardly even use the Internet with Windows 98se today. We all know that if it weren't for that fact Windows 10 and 11 weren't such a massive pile of goat crap we'd have no trouble at all migrating to the so-called "latest and greatest." But it's not "greatest". It's (the OS) is a piece of crap on so many levels it's not even funny. It's sad. They (Microsoft) turned their OS into one giant App-like environment really meant more for a tablet and pretty much blow torched the PC user/PC enthusiast.

    It comes down to this: learn how to REALLY nerd out 10 and 11 by stripping it all the hell down. It sucks one has to do that, but it can be done and I'm sure there are lots of website tutorials and YouTube videos explaining how to do just that. Or just go with Zorin OS or some other Distro. Linux is pretty decent for those that just surf the Internet and print things. And you can game with it too, but in my opinion I feel Windows is better suited for that . If someone wanted to game in Linux they're stuck with AMD because AMD actually open sources their drivers unlike BS ("AI") Nvidia.

    In a nutshell, Microsoft is just gonna corporate. And that's pretty much why the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation was created. Sans some help here and there for the downtrodden to mask the real intent. And ol' slick billy got divorced due to his love affair with an island... Isn't there a mugshot of Bill floating around the Internets? Yeah...
    Everything you said... is sadly true. However, we have things like MyPal, a browser that is made SPECIFICALLY for legacy Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 systems. Windows XP support will have been gone for 10 years next April. Heck, they did it to "Get that old PC back to life!". And the small community of people (us) that are not upgrading to the recent bloatware and spyware Microsoft made that they like to call "Windows 10/11 (and somewhat 8 in this context)" are waiting for this moment for an old OS to have that. MyPal might even work with compatibility mode on Windows Vista and 7, so we won't even have to wait! It's just the fact that companies like Microsoft that used to be so well viewed for their great and unique design of their software, but they switch to the ugly, flat design of modern software and logos without thinking anything about it. I hope a group of people force big tech companies to move back to the great skeuomorphic design.
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  4. Posts : 0
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #13

    Didn't really read threw this so I'm going to address a few things here.


    win7guy284 said:
    This (spoofing the OS reported by the browser) is something i've been looking into for privacy reasons...
    Spoofing the UA is not going to give you much of anything in terms of privacy. It works for certain things like in Thunderbird if you know the Pref and don't load HTML content of third-party images in e-mails like I do. But all in all in terms of using UA spoofing in a browser it's not going to afford you much privacy simply due to the fact that there are many different types of fingerprints that a browser has and that a website can see. And due to that, if you do spoof the UA a banking website or whatever may detect that something's amiss and have you solve a captcha or down right deny access. Most of this privacy invading code is rendered via JavaScript and pulled from the browser. So if you know how to poison canvas data, turn off WebGL and WebRTC and then completely turn off JS, then you will have a more privacy based browser, though with less user functionality. But then again, simply doing that makes you stick out since not very many people do this. So the goal now becomes having to blend in. That's why you want to use more than one version of portable Firefox and the installed version of UnGoogled Chromium without any extensions if at all possible. So you'd use one version of portable Firefox for banking, another for certain other sites and another for maybe forums like this one, etc.



    win7guy284 said:
    Non-freedom-loving devs may chose to artifically restrict their programs from being run or updated on Windows 7 (*ahem* i'm looking at you, Librewolf)
    I'm sure this is because Librewolf is based on Firefox and Firefox now only supports Windows 10 and above. You would probably need to develop a new web browser engine. That's why such projects do exists called Pale Moon et al. I use Pale Moon myself. It's niche however and not for everyone.

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    lukewt1017 said:
    Everything you said... is sadly true. However, we have things like MyPal, a browser that is made SPECIFICALLY for legacy Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 systems. Windows XP support will have been gone for 10 years next April. Heck, they did it to "Get that old PC back to life!". And the small community of people (us) that are not upgrading to the recent bloatware and spyware Microsoft made that they like to call "Windows 10/11 (and somewhat 8 in this context)" are waiting for this moment for an old OS to have that. MyPal might even work with compatibility mode on Windows Vista and 7, so we won't even have to wait! It's just the fact that companies like Microsoft that used to be so well viewed for their great and unique design of their software, but they switch to the ugly, flat design of modern software and logos without thinking anything about it. I hope a group of people force big tech companies to move back to the great skeuomorphic design.

    Good term. Skeuomorph - Wikipedia
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