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Windows 7: Microsoft to randomize browser ballot for EU

11 Dec 2009   #31
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

The download through WU was part of the agreement that Microsoft made with the EU commission.

If they (Microsoft), had waited until the browser ballot could be included into the install media they would have missed the October 22nd release date

It would also mean they would have to make a special install media just for those markets affected by the agreement, rather than the universal media they prefer to use.

What will be interesting is who will receive the Ballot update,

Will all users whose purchase was made in the EU receive it - even those who are no longer located in the EU boundary, or will everyone in the EU market receive it even if they purchased outside the EU.

What I will be interested in is what information Microsoft has to decide the distribution


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11 Dec 2009   #32
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
What will be interesting is who will receive the Ballot update,

Will all users whose purchase was made in the EU receive it - even those who are no longer located in the EU boundary, or will everyone in the EU market receive it even if they purchased outside the EU.

What I will be interested in is what information Microsoft has to decide the distribution
well as you say, the Installation media is universal, therefore i can only assume that anybody requesting updates from an EU registered IP address will recieve the ballot
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12 Dec 2009   #33
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The download through WU was part of the agreement that Microsoft made with the EU commission.

If they (Microsoft), had waited until the browser ballot could be included into the install media they would have missed the October 22nd release date

It would also mean they would have to make a special install media just for those markets affected by the agreement, rather than the universal media they prefer to use.

What will be interesting is who will receive the Ballot update,

Will all users whose purchase was made in the EU receive it - even those who are no longer located in the EU boundary, or will everyone in the EU market receive it even if they purchased outside the EU.

What I will be interested in is what information Microsoft has to decide the distribution
I believe that I read that the update will be distributed to anyone who has a Windows machine that is globablly yet in a European Union controlled area...

They apply this same method to control Windows 7 Starter and Windows 7 Basic...you can't activate either of these two unless you are in a specfic country
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12 Dec 2009   #34
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The download through WU was part of the agreement that Microsoft made with the EU commission.

If they (Microsoft), had waited until the browser ballot could be included into the install media they would have missed the October 22nd release date

It would also mean they would have to make a special install media just for those markets affected by the agreement, rather than the universal media they prefer to use.

What will be interesting is who will receive the Ballot update,

Will all users whose purchase was made in the EU receive it - even those who are no longer located in the EU boundary, or will everyone in the EU market receive it even if they purchased outside the EU.

What I will be interested in is what information Microsoft has to decide the distribution
I believe that I read that the update will be distributed to anyone who has a Windows machine that is globablly yet in a European Union controlled area...

They apply this same method to control Windows 7 Starter and Windows 7 Basic...you can't activate either of these two unless you are in a specfic country
Hi Z

What I'm interested in is what will happen to someone in the UK who uses a US based proxy - or the case where the copy of the software is of US origin but is in use in Germany.

If Microsoft use IP location then the 1st case would not get the update but the second would.

if there is anything different with the actual distribution then Microsoft would have to be using other data from somewhere else
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12 Dec 2009   #35
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

ahhh.. you mean you want to see exactly what out pc's tell MS about us.... good point actually, ill be interested to see too, my guess would be, if it isnt IP based, Windows will tell MS what we put as our country on the installation screen, and that will be the basis of the ballot,

i really hope my 2nd idea isnt the case, i think id have to leave windows for fear of what else is being sent home about me.....
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12 Dec 2009   #36
ratePV

Windows 7 SP1 x64
 
 

I actually said that it should be randomized abt a month ago

Is MS spying this forum?
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12 Dec 2009   #37
Joan Archer

Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

I suppose we'll all have to, as they say, wait and see
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12 Dec 2009   #38
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
The download through WU was part of the agreement that Microsoft made with the EU commission.

If they (Microsoft), had waited until the browser ballot could be included into the install media they would have missed the October 22nd release date

It would also mean they would have to make a special install media just for those markets affected by the agreement, rather than the universal media they prefer to use.

What will be interesting is who will receive the Ballot update,

Will all users whose purchase was made in the EU receive it - even those who are no longer located in the EU boundary, or will everyone in the EU market receive it even if they purchased outside the EU.

What I will be interested in is what information Microsoft has to decide the distribution
I believe that I read that the update will be distributed to anyone who has a Windows machine that is globablly yet in a European Union controlled area...

They apply this same method to control Windows 7 Starter and Windows 7 Basic...you can't activate either of these two unless you are in a specfic country
Hi Z

What I'm interested in is what will happen to someone in the UK who uses a US based proxy - or the case where the copy of the software is of US origin but is in use in Germany.

If Microsoft use IP location then the 1st case would not get the update but the second would.

if there is anything different with the actual distribution then Microsoft would have to be using other data from somewhere else
Hm...I see your wondering of what information they keep of us. It is a little spooky considering we aren't even sure...here is my theory

On the day that the update gets sent to WU, most Windows machines are set to automatically download updates and will recieve the data for it. The update will check to see what region the machine is set to and apply the update to any machine that is set in an EU area. This would also catch recent travelers who let an EU country for another...most would not have changed their global settings (or even know how to). This method would be as good as an IP lookup or better and they wouldn't have to collect more infomation than they need (even though they probably have...)

Just my two cents
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12 Dec 2009   #39
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ratePV View Post
Is MS spying this forum?
They are. Haven't you met the Windows Outreach guys? (OK, guy and girl I believe).

~Lordbob
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13 Dec 2009   #40
Gornot

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

In the end, there is always a solution...
Windows Update -> 1 Important/Optional Update available -> (uncheck) Browser Ballot-> Hide Update -> OK.
Then I will call my lawyer and beat the crap out of the EU XD j/k
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