Who cares about Windows 7? and Linux file integrity: the same as Windows

    Who cares about Windows 7? and Linux file integrity: the same as Windows


    Posted: 18 Mar 2009
    Someone from Microsoft is giving a presentation tonight on Windows 7 at a local computer user group. Debating with myself over whether to attend, made me think, who really cares about Windows 7?

    Certainly the presenter will be preaching to the choir, computer user group members. But there probably won't be many dentists, plumbers, lawyers, photographers, nurses or musicians in attendance. Only techies care about operating systems and techies are far outnumbered by (for lack of a better term) normal people.

    To the silent majority of non-techies, a new release of Windows is nothing but aggravation to be dealt with: software incompatibilities, hardware incompatibilities, mandated software updates and a new interface to learn.

    This is not, in any way, a judgment on the technical pros and cons of the new operating system, rather it reflects the reality that most people use a computer to get work done, and the best thing the operating system can do is get out of their way.
    via Who cares about Windows 7? - Computerworld Blogs

    and a follow-up about file integrity in Ubuntu

    Linux file integrity: the same as Windows

    My previous posting described how Windows 7 lets two programs update the same file at the same time, with the inevitable result, data corruption. It's an accident waiting to happen. And the same is true of Linux.

    KUBUNTU

    Today, I tested with Kubuntu version 8.10 running KDE 4.1.2, the Kate text editor version 3.1.2 and OpenOffice.org Writer version 2.4.1.

    I tested two instances of Kate running concurrently and editing the same file. I also tested Kate and Writer simultaneously editing the same file.

    The results were the same as with Windows 7, file corruption. Not once was I warned about editing a file that was already being edited by another application.
    via Linux file integrity: the same as Windows - Computerworld Blogs
    darkassain's Avatar Posted By: darkassain
    18 Mar 2009



  1. Posts : 16,160
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    Hi,

    Interesting DA.

    I was talking to about 50 people the other day, and casually asked if they knew anything about 7.

    90% had never heard of it. The handful who had heard of it knew almost nothing about it.

    The general view was that an o/s comes with the machine, and as long as it does what they want, fine.

    Not exactly a scientific survey. Still I believe it gives some indication of the vast majority view.
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    This is interesting because when I'm asked what I do (not for a living) in my spare time....people will say "Oh I have a computer". I ask what OS they're running and most don't know. It's just whatever they bought a couple of years ago and have no idea what's going on in technology today.

    As SIW2 said 90% don't know about Windows 7 let alone Vista! I'm sure if I even mentioned Linux, they'd change the subject fast .. LOL
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    I never read those kinds of articles as they are mostly written by wa*kers.
    My little group of friends are mostly computer hobbyists like my good self and we all have Windows 7.None of us are computer pros but we all build our own machines and fix ours and other peoples problems.
    It is certainly not rocket science, although many computer pros would like you to think it is . : ) I am an electrician and my computer interested friends are...a tour bus driver,a wall and floor tiler, a carpenter and a house painter.
    So, the guy is wrong. It is not just techies who are interested in Windows 7.
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    Jacee said:
    I ask what OS they're running and most don't know.
    Or they tell you they are using Windows 97.... or they just say "Office"
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    I'm sure we did have one poster on the Vista Forums who was panicking because some how she had deleted Vista - I believe it was the actual shortcut for IE7
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    SIW2 said:
    Hi,

    Interesting DA.

    I was talking to about 50 people the other day, and casually asked if they knew anything about 7.

    90% had never heard of it. The handful who had heard of it knew almost nothing about it.

    The general view was that an o/s comes with the machine, and as long as it does what they want, fine.

    Not exactly a scientific survey. Still I believe it gives some indication of the vast majority view.
    yep they were like
    what?...
    yeah i did kinda the same thing and while all 69 where like *?* they did like it (well it looked alot better with the touchscreen and pen digitizer) did but said that they wouldn't bother upgrading as their *vista* machine was fine and dandy for them. ( surprised i know, seeing all the web talking about how vista is bad and Xp is good and this from a *normal* user...) and it was customized to the way they liked it....
    they also told me that unless a they have a need for a pc in very future they see little need for win7 as they wont be playing around with it...

    ohh wait there was one professor that was preaching to the choir and was praising xp and bad mouthing vista even though he needs to use...
    i got into a argument about that but then i thought "its his choice and i cant force him into a new OS like how OEM does...(pun intended...:))

    and one did learn about it (reads digital news and you cant read almost any sort of news site without hearing about Windows 7....) buts thats it...

    so i do agree
    except the part he said that users were force into vista and while that might be true...
    its not a terrible experience and like all dinosaurs from the past age (look at my comment above about my Prof.) cry when a little thing is changed...
    (well he is using a p3 so that might account for his frustation with vista...
    but *everyone* and i do mean *everyone that i have asked said that vista was fine for them and tech blogs that exagerate the problems with a OS and believe that the masses are to stupid enough not to evolve....

    which i experimented with with and found to be completely false since all its actually the one who becomes experienced with his OS of choice that notes the changes...
    my tester just asked where a few things were (word processor, image editing, browser, A/V player and text editor) and viola after familirazing herself for a few hours she had everything in control and didnt asked me anymore (of course this computer was completely updated OpenSuse [why i didnt use ubuntu? because i like suse better..]) i come 20 mins later and see two folders, a few text and word processor files, a bunch of A/V files and upon thousands of pictures...

    and all while talking to her friends online with no other help from me...
    i say this, techs underestimate the normal user....

    Jacee said:
    This is interesting because when I'm asked what I do (not for a living) in my spare time....people will say "Oh I have a computer". I ask what OS they're running and most don't know. It's just whatever they bought a couple of years ago and have no idea what's going on in technology today.

    As SIW2 said 90% don't know about Windows 7 let alone Vista! I'm sure if I even mentioned Linux, they'd change the subject fast .. LOL
    yes your right most them dont but the ones that i know at least its windows(so they are part college students but hey at least they know...

    i say it depends on which group of people you ask...
    my generation at least has some basic understanding of technology...

    black dog said:
    I never read those kinds of articles as they are mostly written by wa*kers.
    My little group of friends are mostly computer hobbyists like my good self and we all have Windows 7.None of us are computer pros but we all build our own machines and fix ours and other peoples problems.
    It is certainly not rocket science, although many computer pros would like you to think it is . : ) I am an electrician and my computer interested friends are...a tour bus driver,a wall and floor tiler, a carpenter and a house painter.
    So, the guy is wrong. It is not just techies who are interested in Windows 7.
    but you see hes talking about the majority of people...
    of course i have a few friends that do tweak their systems but i dont count them in since 1) they are not in my class. (which is where i asked) and 2) the technically dont count as normal joes....
    i classify a pro by someone that can assemble their own machine and can actually program (meaning setup) and maintain their machine.....
    that being i do actually see you guys as computer pros....
    but in this day and age i believe (at least with me and some others) that
    a computer pro and computer professional mean 2 different things from long ago....


    smarteyeball said:
    Or they tell you they are using Windows 97.... or they just say "Office"
    windows 2009? (as 08 has been done...lol)

    Barman58 said:
    I'm sure we did have one poster on the Vista Forums who was panicking because some how she had deleted Vista - I believe it was the actual shortcut for IE7
    at least she knew where to look for help....
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