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Windows 7: Windows 7 reliable enough to release?

14 Mar 2009   #11
Firestrider

Linux (Debian, Android)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Digger View Post
also, has no ONE mentioned how much ram that 7 tends to use? it seems as tho the more you keep putting in there, the more 7 keeps wanting to use. For example on that read, guy has 4gig, and only 875 free???? omg is all i can say
The memory usage at idle is based on what programs you most frequently use. The more programs you frequently use the more RAM that is "cached" in both Windows Vista and Windows 7. Overall I say that 7 is smarter with memory caching and has a smaller footprint on memory than Vista did.

Since I mostly use IE, WMP, and Office my RAM usage sits less than 1 GB idle and I have 4 GB installed. I notice a big speedup from opening programs I frequently use compared to my roommate who uses XP with faster hardware.


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15 Mar 2009   #12
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by win7 View Post
Install hangs as it starts on pc with 7057, works fine on laptop.. mmm so i say no way..

Though this has not happened with any previous builds...
Be patient --install on some machines LOOKS like its hanging but can take up to 10 - 15 mins before you actually see the "Choose Language etc " screen.

This seems to take longer on "Better specced" machines with more memory -- you don't even see any Disk activity either so it will seem to some that the installation has actually "Hung up".

Not sure what its doing but just to add to "conspiracy theorists" -- I hope its not making a totally hidden file on your PC whichh eventually will get sent to Microsfoft for whatever purpose.

There's a rumour going around that instead of a "Per Seat" license (and I hate that model as well)

Microsoft want to get a royalty fee based on the NUMBER OF KEYSTOKES made when using something like Office -- beware you have been warned.

Cheers
Jimbo
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15 Mar 2009   #13
win7

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Be patient --install on some machines it LOOKS like its hanging but can take up to 10 mins before you actually see the "Choose Language etc " screen.

This seems to take longer on "Better specced" machines with more memory -- you don't even see any Disk activity either so it will seem to some that the installation has actually "Hung up".

Not sure what its doing but just to add to "conspiracy theorists" -- I hope its not making a totally hidden file on your PC whichh eventually will get sent to Microsfoft for whatever purpose.

There's a rumour going around that instead of a "Per Seat" license (and I hate that model as well)

Microsoft want to get a royalty fee based on the NUMBER OF KEYSTOKES made when using something like Office -- beware you have been warned.

Cheers
Jimbo
I waited for quite some time and it has never happened on older builds, and was not even slightly hanging up on my laptop using exact same disk.
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15 Mar 2009   #14
Asgaro

Windows 7 | b7100 | 64 bits
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Be patient --install on some machines LOOKS like its hanging but can take up to 10 - 15 mins before you actually see the "Choose Language etc " screen.

This seems to take longer on "Better specced" machines with more memory -- you don't even see any Disk activity either so it will seem to some that the installation has actually "Hung up".

Not sure what its doing but just to add to "conspiracy theorists" -- I hope its not making a totally hidden file on your PC whichh eventually will get sent to Microsfoft for whatever purpose.

There's a rumour going around that instead of a "Per Seat" license (and I hate that model as well)

Microsoft want to get a royalty fee based on the NUMBER OF KEYSTOKES made when using something like Office -- beware you have been warned.

Cheers
Jimbo
Hey, I've also noticed this! Someone else having another possible explanation for this?

First I installed build 7048 on my main pc with the following specs: intel q6600 2.4ghz - 4gb ram - nvidia 8800 gtx.
And after that on an old laptop with these specs: intel celeron 1.6ghz (i think) - 512mb ram - intel graphics stuff.

And I was suprised by the fact I only had to wait about half the time for the "Choose Language etc " screen to show up on the laptop!
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15 Mar 2009   #15
win7

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

LOL, i am starting to think maybe i was slightly impatient but why would this happen? I have used 7 from 6801 on this machine and not had any issues on any build until now, also this does not happen on my laptop (of lower spec) on any build including 7057.
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15 Mar 2009   #16
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hi Win7,

What we have to remember here is we do not know why Build 7057 was built in the particular way it was. Maybe the purpose of it was to test certain parts of the install and start up routines.

AFAIK, whilst 7048 was intended to be a release to certain testers - it was I understand a Beta Refresh for developers - 7057 is probably just a daily build and therefor is likely to have any amount of debug code included.

Often in development you have to take a step back to take three forward. The fact that lots of nice changes were in this build is probably why it was "released"

The only real test will be when the actual RC is released, (or escapes ), I know I am finding 7057 to be a bit less snappy than 7048 but will await the actual RC with interest
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15 Mar 2009   #17
win7

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Hi Win7,

What we have to remember here is we do not know why Build 7057 was built in the particular way it was. Maybe the purpose of it was to test certain parts of the install and start up routines.

AFAIK, whilst 7048 was intended to be a release to certain testers - it was I understand a Beta Refresh for developers - 7057 is probably just a daily build and therefor is likely to have any amount of debug code included.

Often in development you have to take a step back to take three forward. The fact that lots of nice changes were in this build is probably why it was "released"

The only real test will be when the actual RC is released, (or escapes ), I know I am finding 7057 to be a bit less snappy than 7048 but will await the actual RC with interest
Yes your right but i was just slightly disapointed as its running great on my laptop and had no problems with any other builds.

Its ok i switched my setup and now for 7 on laptop and vista sp2 on desktop

It won't be long before more builds official or not. I will just have to wait and see if the next one works.
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15 Mar 2009   #18
ChudaPati09

Windows 7
 
 

Is it just me,
Or is the boot time gone up.
In Other builds After that new boot video it would go stright to login.
But in this one, a slight black screen with the mouse, in between boot and login.

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15 Mar 2009   #19
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Hello ChudaPati09

Yes I agree it seems like the delay on vista when they checked for the presence of dual monitors - But as I said above it could just as likely be an enhanced boot log or something similar, It maybe of course something which ignores mobile chipsets hence the issues not being present in laptops.

Only MS know
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15 Mar 2009   #20
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by win7 View Post
Yes your right but i was just slightly disapointed as its running great on my laptop and had no problems with any other builds.

Its ok i switched my setup and now for 7 on laptop and vista sp2 on desktop

It won't be long before more builds official or not. I will just have to wait and see if the next one works.
Don't forget Vista SP2 also expires in MAR 2010 (Co-incidence perhaps ?)

I'm not sure what is to be gained by having VISTA SP2 -- you might as well go the whole piggy (hog ?) hog and upgrade to W7 straight away.

You'll have to do something to th Vista SP2 system anyway before that date.

Cheers
jimbo
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