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Windows 7: Studios crushed: ISP can't be forced to play copyright

08 Feb 2010   #21
stevieray

windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

The studios don't realize how much money they are losing because of their restrictions.

I would love to be able to download and watch a movie, but I won't until I can do it the same way I do it with music -- i.e. pay for a download, keep a copy on my p.c., burn an (unplayed) archive disk, and burn a second disk for use -- just like I do with all of the albums I buy off Amazon.

I have no desire to rent a movie... I'd rather pay a little more to own the thing; I won't buy it without a hard copy backup; and I don't like the one or two machine digital only license some movie sites have.


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08 Feb 2010   #22
raydabruce

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 and Ubuntu Linux 9.10
 
 

I agree with Omegatron. The Aussies have already had their right to private ownership of firearms taken away. Now they may face Internet censorship, like China. As a freedom-loving American, I find these changes and attitudes very disturbing. The Aussies need to rise up and vote out all politicians that support these repressive policies. And vote with your dollars, too. Cancel all subscriptions to any ISPs that are even considering a voluntary blocking of any websites.
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08 Feb 2010   #23
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by raydabruce View Post
The Aussies have already had their right to private ownership of firearms taken away.
Owning firearms is not a right, it is a privileged. If it has been abused, it can and SHOULD be taken away.

That is not to say I don't support gun ownership or anything, just wanted that clarified.

~Lordbob
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08 Feb 2010   #24
dmex

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by raydabruce View Post
I agree with Omegatron. The Aussies have already had their right to private ownership of firearms taken away. Now they may face Internet censorship, like China. As a freedom-loving American, I find these changes and attitudes very disturbing. The Aussies need to rise up and vote out all politicians that support these repressive policies. And vote with your dollars, too. Cancel all subscriptions to any ISPs that are even considering a voluntary blocking of any websites.
Most support it because the Govt says its all about blocking Child-Porn (more like sweeping under the web) but the current proposed filtering laws say all RC (refused classification) content will be blocked, Not many know that anything over MA15+ is actually illegal in every state except NT and ACT and hence will be blocked by the filter.

When I tell people there are 65534 ways at minimum of bypassing the filter, they quickly start to realize its not about child-porn. Govt is only planning to filter port 80 so it leaves 65534 ports unfiltered and thats without counting p2p, vpns, encryption, Tor and lots of other ways.

What makes this whole thing even worse, the filtering hardware has a max speed of 8Mbit/s so our soon to be built National FTTH (Fiber to the home) network the Govt is building will be slower than our copper ADSL2 network wasting $44m and has side-effects like over-blocking and automatically denying access to unfiltered and legal sites.

Government ignores Enex warning on over-blocking - Hardware - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by raydabruce View Post
The Aussies have already had their right to private ownership of firearms taken away.
Owning firearms is not a right, it is a privileged. If it has been abused, it can and SHOULD be taken away.

That is not to say I don't support gun ownership or anything, just wanted that clarified.

~Lordbob
Firearms are a right in the US, here we don't even have the right to free-speech let alone guns or even a bbgun (there illegal too) If you think us Aussies have even basic rights of freedom then your terribly misinformed about our laws.

Here in my home state WA, they changed the law last month allowing Police to stop/search anyone or any premise without probable cause and since last year police can have your car confiscated for 28 days with a $1200-$2500 towing and 'storage' fee, if you cant pay or it gets confiscated three times your car gets crushed, even if your driving someone else's car. Recently a doctors Ferrari was confiscated for 28days after his mechanic went on a joyride after a routine service, the mechanic didn't suffer any fines or consequences but the doctor did.

I dont want to single out one group but the majority of politicians in state and federal government are Christians and many laws are now passed in WA/SA and NSW without consulting the public first, A good example was banning farmers from clearing their land for preventing 'global warming' and later without compensating them for the losses in income and land-devaluation and also South Australia now requiring all movies over MA15+ to have brown cases with only the movie name and also requiring all internet users to have their real name and address when commenting on sites like Facebook, Twitter, news sites and many others.

Need I explain more
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08 Feb 2010   #25
hubris

W7, Xp Pro
 
 

Hello from AUS.

"Most of the "Aussies" I know usually don't take lightly to their Country's fine tradition of independence and freedom being tampered with." unquote.

dead right there Jimbo.
check this site/ thread out. Whirlpool even has ISP CEO's posting on it.

Conroy - the worst thing ever? - Broadband - Whirlpool Forums

cheers all.
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08 Feb 2010   #26
Colonel Travis

Black Label 7 x64
 
 

[QUOTE=Lordbob75;557073]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by raydabruce View Post
Owning firearms is not a right, it is a privileged.
~Lordbob
As far as U.S. law goes, this is flat-out wrong.
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08 Feb 2010   #27
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ARTICLE
In a definitive defeat for film studios—and in a first case of its kind worldwide—Australia's Federal Court has ruled that ISPs have no obligation to act on copyright infringement notices or to disconnect subscribers after receiving multiple letters.
In your face MediaSentry and BayTSP
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08 Feb 2010   #28
hubris

W7, Xp Pro
 
 

Quote:
In ten years, I probably won't be able to even write a post like this.
there will always be a way to circumvent censorship, always has been. just have to know how.....

seems someone always finds a way and makes people like stephen conroy and co. look like the incompetent "IT" people they think they are. fools.....
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08 Feb 2010   #29
eXc450

 
 

Aus can still own firearms, you just have to have them all registered and you sure can't just walk around with them. I have mates that have various guns and use them legitamtley and it's all good. There is no need to carry one here, and I sure want to keep it that way! I'd much prefer them to ban firearms than end up the way the USA has with regard to weapons.
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09 Feb 2010   #30
comicbookguy

Dule Boot Windows XP (x32) Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

there shouldent even be a record button on a video player by rights or a dvd recorder player its the same .... copyright law weather you download music movies or record a show on tv to watch later as i keep telling my mum there is no difference in downloading a song or movie then you pressing record on your video player .....so all you mums and dads who ars so good and would never download a song or movie STOP pressing your record button i bet ya dont i'll bet you a million dollars that ya still press that rcord button

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