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Windows 7: IE9 confirmed for March 2010

04 Mar 2010   #131
Staple Head

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Pff Internet Explorer. What a shame, so slow. so large and is to big on the ram.

I'll still stick to my Chrome and occasional firefox.
Sometimes I wonder if we are all talking about the same browser. I have found that IE8 is as fast or faster than other browsers, integrates beautifully with Win 7 and renders pages correctly. Where security is concerned, the large number of patches done to IE8 is a good thing. It shows that MS is trying to stay ahead of the curve.

I am sure that for many people, other browsers present some distinct advantages, which is a good thing, as we all have our preferences. However, perhaps it is just my ignorance showing, but I have a hard time believing that anyone knows more about integrating a browser with their OS than Microsoft. Anyway, I am content with IE8 at this time and I am looking forward to IE9.

Anyone tried Maxthon lately?
the key word is integrating. the browser should work on top of the os not be integrated into it. the browser should only call up what it needs from the os and other programs. firefox, chrome, opera, etc.... can all be completely removed and not leave any trace. you can only hide internet explorer from sight. i know in 98 and xp to remove ie completely from the os would damage the os itself.


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04 Mar 2010   #132
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You can remove IE 6 in XP without trashing the OS there. You do need to have the IE SP1 for 6 onhand however since Windows updates utilize IE in the older versions. You would remove IE there on machines where you want no online connection available.
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05 Mar 2010   #133
Staple Head

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You can remove IE 6 in XP without trashing the OS there. You do need to have the IE SP1 for 6 onhand however since Windows updates utilize IE in the older versions. You would remove IE there on machines where you want no online connection available.
and there in the problem lies. microsoft knew users would not uninstall ie because they knew users still wanted to get to windows updates in xp. then comes vista and once again you cannot uninstall ie completely even though there was a court order to make it possible. and now we have 7 and the best you can hope for is to hide ie. you ignored my main point the browser has no business being integrated into the os. there is no legitimate reason to have it integrated in the os instead of just installing on top of the os.
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05 Mar 2010   #134
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Depends where you are now! With the EU decision and cooperation by MS you now see a menu of chioces between browsers when installing 7.

For the novice user installing Windows for the first time or buying a new pc for the first time how do you get online without a browser already present in some shape or form? "Gee no browser included.. How do I connect online to get a different one? "

You can only sum a form of "Catch 22" by saying no browser belongs being included in an OS. FireFox comes included with ubuntu! Ice and Konquerer come included with Knoppix and the list goes on for the open source OSs as well there. It wasn't until the first version of Windows to see IE included came along with 95, IE 4.0, that you only first heard from Netscape about IE being already present.

All that is fodder for another thread entirely however since now we are looking at how things will be with IE 9 once that becomes available for download. Having a browser already included in Windows also means you don't have to chase around looking for one any time you go to set a new system or perform a clean install on one. I want to run another browser I still do whether IE is present or not. Simple solution.
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05 Mar 2010   #135
QuackPot

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

lol, I wouldn't get excited about IE9. It'll be packed with stupendous levels of fail like the other siblings.
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05 Mar 2010   #136
Staple Head

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Depends where you are now! With the EU decision and cooperation by MS you now see a menu of chioces between browsers when installing 7.

For the novice user installing Windows for the first time or buying a new pc for the first time how do you get online without a browser already present in some shape or form? "Gee no browser included.. How do I connect online to get a different one? "

You can only sum a form of "Catch 22" by saying no browser belongs being included in an OS. FireFox comes included with ubuntu! Ice and Konquerer come included with Knoppix and the list goes on for the open source OSs as well there. It wasn't until the first version of Windows to see IE included came along with 95, IE 4.0, that you only first heard from Netscape about IE being already present.

All that is fodder for another thread entirely however since now we are looking at how things will be with IE 9 once that becomes available for download. Having a browser already included in Windows also means you don't have to chase around looking for one any time you go to set a new system or perform a clean install on one. I want to run another browser I still do whether IE is present or not. Simple solution.
i said nothing about not including ie with windows. i said that it does not need to be integrated. there is a big difference. yes after counless comsumer complaints here in the states and the federal courts going after microsoft, microsoft made it possible to uninstall ie from xp. however when vista came out the browser was tightly integrated into the os again, and in win 7 you can only hide it not uninstall it. there is no reason not to have ie run on top of the os and call on the windows resources it needs. i for one hope that ms has finally gotten their act together and deliver a new browser that can actually compete instead of being left behind.
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05 Mar 2010   #137
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Well to give you one idea of what MS has in mind for IE 9 one of my contacts pointed this to me.

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Microsoft to focus heavily on HTML5 for IE9

Internet Explorer 9 may get a beta release with a heavy HTML5 emphasis at Microsoft’s MIX 2010 developer conference in mid-March, according to escaped details. Hinting that IE9 will have comprehensive support for HTML5 is a scheduled briefing at MIX 2010 titled “HTML5 Now: The Future of Web Markup Today.” Opera Software’s Molly Holzschlag will present the party and has said to expect Microsoft to bring browser storage and other HTML5 features.

Another session will focus on scalable vector graphics (SVG), a technology supported by most other browsers and especially those that recognize HTML5. IE Senior Program Manager Patrick Dengler will be the head speaker at the talk, known as “Future of Vector Graphics for the Web.”

Currently, IE8 gets HTML5 capabilities like plugin-free video playback and SVG only thanks to add-on features from third parties. Google’s Chrome Frame is the most conspicuous example and inserts the web engine from Chrome on top of Microsoft’s browser.

Microsoft’s IE team has previously stressed higher JavaScript rendering speeds and CSS support. Standards support has been a talking point, but the company hasn’t said how close it realistically expects to get in compatibility: its earliest version only scored 32 points on the well-known ACID3 standards test where browsers like Apple’s Safari 4 are already known to get perfect scores.
With the rest of that seen at Microsoft to focus heavily on HTML5 for IE9 | Checking Together

IE 8 ships with only a few HTML5 tools. MS now has to emphasize their efforts for 9 to play a catch up role in that regard!
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06 Mar 2010   #138
m00nd0g

Windows 7 home , Vista Ultimate sp2 , XP Pro sp3
 
 

I can't wait for IE 9 , its going to be bye bye to all the rest . MS knows its timing and its time is now to blow the rest away ... We shall see , wouldn't we ....
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06 Mar 2010   #139
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by m00nd0g View Post
I can't wait for IE 9 , its going to be bye bye to all the rest . MS knows its timing and its time is now to blow the rest away ... We shall see , wouldn't we ....
If MS knew it timing, it would not have the competition that it does, and it would have released a browser far better than it now has, long ago. If MS ever gets it right, it couldn't be soon enough.
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06 Mar 2010   #140
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by m00nd0g View Post
I can't wait for IE 9 , its going to be bye bye to all the rest . MS knows its timing and its time is now to blow the rest away ... We shall see , wouldn't we ....

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