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Windows 7: Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory.

19 Feb 2010   #91
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Free Memory is wasted memory.


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19 Feb 2010   #92
valtonray

Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition
 
 

i've yet to have any ram problems either. i wonder if this comes from the idea that people say well it's using more than my old xp did so it must be bad. you should be glad your system is using more ram(assuming it's using it correctly and it's not a memory leak) 7 has made vast improvements in memory managment and that extra ram being used is making your system faster and more responsive instead of sitting there ideally. i think by default 7 will on average use around 35% on a light load and increase as needed. which is good. thats the point of having all that ram if ir's not being touched.
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19 Feb 2010   #93
KazeNoKoe23

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zepher View Post
Free Memory is wasted memory.
Yup. I'm surprised how many people still believe that free memory is a good thing, like it makes your machine magically faster to have a lot of free memory.
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20 Feb 2010   #94
Copperstone

Windows 7 Ultimate x86, Ubuntu 9.10
 
 

lol @ " ...everything that Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away..."
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20 Feb 2010   #95
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Updates,

Most Windows 7 PCs max out memory

one of the best comments from it,

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"Outside of Microsoft, I don't think anyone knows more about Windows performance than us," said Barth, reacting to readers like Cregan89 who dismissed the memory data as bogus.
pretty high opinion of himself.

And a complete rebuttal,

Behind the Windows 7 memory usage scaremongering

and this clown's own blog defending it some more,

exo.blog: Rebutting Ars Technica

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Bottom Line: There’s a reason why our analysis templates are flagging PCs like Mr. Bright’s PC as being low on memory is because they are. Period. Anyone who believes otherwise needs to pick up a copy of Inside Windows NT (the original from Helen Custer is a classic) and start reading.
Um, Inside Windows NT? Think things may have changed just a little bit since 1997.
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20 Feb 2010   #96
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Classic statements in rebuttal of the rebuttal of the rebuttal

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WHy continue to sell the idea that wooden wheels are still the way to go when even the horse drives a car.
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I seriously cannot believe you are quoting an NT4 book regarding Windows 7 memory usage.

Well my Babbage analytic machine instruction manual claims your NT4 machine is using far too much memory!

Get on that!
Priceless
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20 Feb 2010   #97
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I think Microsoft should take people like this to court for dissipation of false information and slam them with a multimillion dollar fine for negatively impacting their business.
It is one thing, if sombody voices an opinion (1st amendment) - but if the facts get distorted, that is pretty serious.
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20 Feb 2010   #98
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I think Microsoft should take people like this to court for dissipation of false information and slam them with a multimillion dollar fine for negatively impacting their business.
It is one thing, if sombody voices an opinion (1st amendment) - but if the facts get distorted, that is pretty serious.
I think that you meant propagation, rather than dissipation, but whichever the case may be, it would have to fall under a libel action, which is normally defaming a person (by law, a corp. is a person), and usually regards written statements damaging a person"s reputation, not a product of theirs.

Even if Microsoft could win such a case, it probably would do them more damage than XPnet would do. If such actions became SOP, it would probably be perceived as heavy handed, abusive use of the law, and cost them both in legal costs, which the loser wouldn't be able to repay, and loss of income from sales.

EDIT: Libel also requires proving malicious intent, and would also requires proving actual loss caused by the libel.
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20 Feb 2010   #99
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Right - "propagation" was the better word. It's a drag with these foreign languages - LOL. So if I read you right, anybody can publish false facts and there is little one can do about it. - Strange laws.
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20 Feb 2010   #100
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

To an extent...yes. Libel is not something easy to prove, and a lot of lawyers are reluctant to take such a case. If one does, it would probably require that the person being sued has deep pockets to dip into, but if those pockets are deep, that also means that they could drag out a case for many years, and even after a court ruled against them, it would take many more years before any money traded hands. Chances are that it would end up being settled out of court, and the lawyers would end up getting the lion's share of the settlement.
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