Seems like smart marketing, as long as the newer products don't suck and tarnish the image of "7". ( I'm looking at you Windows Mobile 7)

SMOKKINU said:

XboxOmac said:

I didn't see so many differences between Windows 7 and Windows Vista, besides Speed and Performance. Security actually went down on it's release.

Care to explain how you came to that conclusion?

I can give one example. The default action of UAC. In Vista, while it was a bit jarring and strict, UAC was more effective, but due to complaints, MS made UAC less strict and thereby the leaving OS less secure.

Granted UAC is not the end-all of security, but it is a great tool to keep unwanted trojans in check. First thing I do on a 7 install is move the UAC bar up to Maximum.

PhreePhly

noob said:

Seems like smart marketing, as long as the newer products don't suck and tarnish the image of "7". ( I'm looking at you Windows Mobile 7)

Not sure I understand. Are you saying the WP 7S 7 (Win Phone 7 Series) is somehow tarnishing Win 7? The WPS UI is ideal for a mobil device.

While Win 7 UI is awesome for the desktop, that same concept does not translate well to a cell phone sized touch screen that uses a fat finger as an input device. MS made a great move using the Zune interface as the foundation for the new Touch device UI.

I can't wait for the phones to come out.

PhreePhly

PhreePhly said:

SMOKKINU said:

XboxOmac said:

I didn't see so many differences between Windows 7 and Windows Vista, besides Speed and Performance. Security actually went down on it's release.

Care to explain how you came to that conclusion?

I can give one example. The default action of UAC. In Vista, while it was a bit jarring and strict, UAC was more effective, but due to complaints, MS made UAC less strict and thereby the leaving OS less secure.

Granted UAC is not the end-all of security, but it is a great tool to keep unwanted trojans in check. First thing I do on a 7 install is move the UAC bar up to Maximum.

PhreePhly

First thing I do on a Win 7 / Vista install is DISABLE UAC.

It's annoying and does not do anything.

TGSoldier said:

PhreePhly said:

SMOKKINU said:

Care to explain how you came to that conclusion?

I can give one example. The default action of UAC. In Vista, while it was a bit jarring and strict, UAC was more effective, but due to complaints, MS made UAC less strict and thereby the leaving OS less secure.

Granted UAC is not the end-all of security, but it is a great tool to keep unwanted trojans in check. First thing I do on a 7 install is move the UAC bar up to Maximum.

PhreePhly

First thing I do on a Win 7 / Vista install is DISABLE UAC.

It's annoying and does not do anything.

Really? How does a trojan install without triggering UAC? Does UAC stop the trojan from installing if you click "yes", of course not, but at least it provides the User with the knowledge they are about to perform something stupid. If they go ahead and do it, nothing you can do.

PhreePhly