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Windows 7: Windows 7 Crushes Vista.

28 Feb 2010   #21
sergiogarcia9

 

That didnt surprise me either


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28 Feb 2010   #22
smarteyeball

 
 

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also to add to jimbo's list.

a changed gui is great for the home user, but a nightmare for the corporate envirionment as it means staff lose productivity as they need to retrain on the new interface.
That's when the Coporates should have jumped on the public Beta and RC builds and told their employes to start learning how to use it so they could have a smooth migration with limited loss of productivity when they made the switch.
With all due respect, I disagree. In the business world, time is money. Training pulls employees away from their duties resulting in lost productivity. Training employees on a beta is certainly not practical in the current economic environment when many business have cut back the work force to bare bones and are struggling to stay in the black. Training on a beta is a luxury that businesses and event the government cannot afford.

Another aspect is that some employees while very good and proficient at their jobs are not proficient with computers. A computer is a tool they have to use. These employees require more training and more practice. If XP is working, why train on a beta?
Unfortunately, this is extremely true. From a productivity viewpoint, it's simply impractical.

Even when those who do change, there will be a lot of time wasted re-training staff.



Personally I'd hate to work for an IT department amidst a new OS roll out.

99% of support tickets would be of the 'It used to do this - now it doesn't' ilk.
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28 Feb 2010   #23
Mark

Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mr GRiM View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
also to add to jimbo's list.

a changed gui is great for the home user, but a nightmare for the corporate envirionment as it means staff lose productivity as they need to retrain on the new interface.
That's when the Coporates should have jumped on the public Beta and RC builds and told their employes to start learning how to use it so they could have a smooth migration with limited loss of productivity when they made the switch.
With all due respect, I disagree. In the business world, time is money. Training pulls employees away from their duties resulting in lost productivity. Training employees on a beta is certainly not practical in the current economic environment when many business have cut back the work force to bare bones and are struggling to stay in the black. Training on a beta is a luxury that businesses and event the government cannot afford.

Another aspect is that some employees while very good and proficient at their jobs are not proficient with computers. A computer is a tool they have to use. These employees require more training and more practice. If XP is working, why train on a beta?
Sorry what I meant to say they should have told their employees to start using it at home, not in the workplace, when they had the opportunity to take advantage of the of the RC and then when the company did decide to switch their employees would have been familiar with the OS, that way there would be lees time needed to train the staff to use it.
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28 Feb 2010   #24
Mark

Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mr GRiM View Post

That's when the Coporates should have jumped on the public Beta and RC builds and told their employes to start learning how to use it so they could have a smooth migration with limited loss of productivity when they made the switch.
With all due respect, I disagree. In the business world, time is money. Training pulls employees away from their duties resulting in lost productivity. Training employees on a beta is certainly not practical in the current economic environment when many business have cut back the work force to bare bones and are struggling to stay in the black. Training on a beta is a luxury that businesses and event the government cannot afford.

Another aspect is that some employees while very good and proficient at their jobs are not proficient with computers. A computer is a tool they have to use. These employees require more training and more practice. If XP is working, why train on a beta?
Unfortunately, this is extremely true. From a productivity viewpoint, it's simply impractical.

Even when those who do change, there will be a lot of time wasted re-training staff.



Personally I'd hate to work for an IT department amidst a new OS roll out.

99% of support tickets would be of the 'It used to do this - now it doesn't' ilk.

lol, My car used to have a stick shift, now it changes gear automatically, I can still drive it though.
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28 Feb 2010   #25
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mr GRiM View Post
Sorry what I meant to say they should have told their employees to start using it at home, not in the workplace, when they had the opportunity to take advantage of the of the RC and then when the company did decide to switch their employees would have been familiar with the OS, that way there would be lees time needed to train the staff to use it.
That sounds good in theory and would work for employees who are computer savvy. But consider the mechanic in the shop or the parts clerk in an auto supply. These people use the computer as a tool for what they have to do. They follow the bouncing ball on the screen to accomplish a task and that's it. Many of these folks don't touch a computer when they get home - and many don't even have an email account. Their kids are on the computer; but not them. When they leave work to go home; they leave work behind. An employer cannot require them to train at home unless he/she compensates them and provides with the tools - hardware and software - to do the training.
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28 Feb 2010   #26
Mark

Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

We are all capable of change, it's just that most of us are stubborn and try to resist it, this is in our nature, but change is good and it leads to new innovations and improves productivity, people and coporates need to just bite the bullet and deal with it.
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28 Feb 2010   #27
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mr GRiM View Post
We are all capable of change, it's just that most of us are stubborn and try to resist it, this is in our nature, but change is good and it leads to new innovations and improves productivity, people and coporates need to just bite the bullet and deal with it.
From a management point of view, it is not a question of resisting change, it is how to implement the change at the least cost and with the smallest negative impact on productivity and customers' ability to connect to the business. Disruption to the work routine is costly. And why change? Why fix what is not broken? If XP is doing the job, Windows Seven is not needed. The bells and whistles don't mean anything to productivity in a business environment.
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28 Feb 2010   #28
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

arent they already talking about ending support for vista?
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28 Feb 2010   #29
smarteyeball

 
 

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lol, My car used to have a stick shift, now it changes gear automatically, I can still drive it though.
lol, ditto.

But I'd wager one of the most common questions asked would be 'where's the Up Arrow' and that's just one small part of navigating within the OS itself.

Add some proprietary software into the mix and you'll have some frustrated IT staff. Some people just don't like change

On the other hand, I forced my dad to go from XP>Vista>Seven and he's not a big fan of change.

But since I kept the apps similar, kept the shortcuts easy to access and gave a little instruction here and there, surprisingly, there was little complaint from him

Basically, some will have no problems adapting, others will struggle for a bit and the rest will just bitch and moan
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28 Feb 2010   #30
Zen00

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I can't wait till we're all crotchety old men complaining about every change in the OS that was perfectly fine 10 revisions ago.
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