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Windows 7: Avoid the Apple Tax Cash in on the value of Windows

09 Apr 2009   #11
itznfb

Windows 7 x86 build 7077
 
 

the false sense of superiority that Apple users have is what gets under my skin. how does being suckered into a marketing campain make you superior?


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09 Apr 2009   #12
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
I agree thanks mate!
Thanks to both you and Mr. GRiM.

For the rest of you reading this, don't think I'm looking for the demise of Apple or the whole "Apple is doomed" stuff. The unibody macbooks are pretty nice. If I had the disposable income, I might consider buying one of them, but I'd most likely run Windows on it. Again, I would still have to justify it to myself, and I would need a lot of disposable income

As I said, OSX has a certain finish to it that Windows (including Win 7) lack. Apple hires very good designers, who tend to not only look at a single device, but also the different ways it can inter-connect with other Apple devices.

I just can't justify the cost. Like I've said in a few other threads regarding Dell, I really like the Dell Studio line of laptops. If I had the money today, I'd get myself the Studio XPS 16. For less than $2000 I'd have a 4GB (upgrade to 8 possible) DDR3, 2.8 gHz lappy with a 512 GB discrete video and awesome rLED screen. Oh and a Blue-ray drive with a backlit keyboard.

No mac competes for bang for the buck.

But the competition is good. Windows 7 and Vista have elements that were certainly borrowed from OSX, just like OSX gains elements borrowed from Windows. These things are good.

PhreePhly
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09 Apr 2009   #13
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks, I think that was an excellent post by the way!
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09 Apr 2009   #14
Quantum

Windows 7 7068
 
 

i've got a macbook pro 15" running 2.4 dual core, the alu design is a great thing really,
1. it looks good
2. it feels good
3. it's lighter

when i look to my inspiron who is made of soooo many different pieces of plastic that after 3,5 years of use show important sings of wear. Had to change my keyboard, my battery, 2 of my 4 usb ports aren't working properly anymore, my screen is very wobbely and the plastics on the side of my screen are broken and detaching themselves, got a crack in the plastic on the right side, my dvd-writer make weirdo noises and got failure of burning 1/3 times, my fan makes a airplane noise once in a while (very nice in a library)....

So buy a PC!!, but don't buy a Dell (laptop)

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09 Apr 2009   #15
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
So buy a PC!!, but don't buy a Dell (laptop)

actually most mainstream laptops are made of plastic so i can see why the unibody aluminum works...
i myself am looking into someone who can custom build a carbon fiber chassis (completely) so i can get rid of the plastic/magnesium alloy (which cracks easily as i found out...) chassis
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09 Apr 2009   #16
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
i've got a macbook pro 15" running 2.4 dual core, the alu design is a great thing really,
1. it looks good
2. it feels good
3. it's lighter

when i look to my inspiron who is made of soooo many different pieces of plastic that after 3,5 years of use show important sings of wear. Had to change my keyboard, my battery, 2 of my 4 usb ports aren't working properly anymore, my screen is very wobbely and the plastics on the side of my screen are broken and detaching themselves, got a crack in the plastic on the right side, my dvd-writer make weirdo noises and got failure of burning 1/3 times, my fan makes a airplane noise once in a while (very nice in a library)....

So buy a PC!!, but don't buy a Dell (laptop)

My wife is still using her Inspiron 17" that she bought 4 or 5 years ago. It's missing the TAB key on the keyboard and I had to buy a new battery late last year. Everything else works just fine. She owns three bars and takes it with her every other day to download inventory information. The unit has been dropped, had liquids spilled on it, etc. I have taken the keyboard out and cleaned more than once.

All in all, a very good Dell experience. Have you seen the new Studio line of laptops? Very sturdy design (not unibody sturdy) and not too heavy. Battery usage is still a big win for OSX, but I can't complain about it. My son's lappy has Vista Home Premium and he runs it on battery all the time at school. Has never had issues with running out of power in class. Win 7 should be better on that front.

It is based on the wife's and the son's experiences that I would buy another Dell.

PhreePhly
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09 Apr 2009   #17
Quantum

Windows 7 7068
 
 

i think the bad quality of laptops also plays a role in the experience we have in general of windows, if they would build high quality products, maybe i never would have bought a mac, because i tell you, that wobbly screen is really pissing me off

For the the carbon body...that's gonna be really really really expensive, that's why they don't even use it mass production cars, because it's sooo expensive.

Though if you got some to spend, i think there is a full carbon laptop, ASUS makes one, but there is an other brand who makes them, Acer with his Ferrari one haha
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09 Apr 2009   #18
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Quantum View Post
i think the bad quality of laptops also plays a role in the experience we have in general of windows, if they would build high quality products, maybe i never would have bought a mac, because i tell you, that wobbly screen is really pissing me off

For the the carbon body...that's gonna be really really really expensive, that's why they don't even use it mass production cars, because it's sooo expensive.

Though if you got some to spend, i think there is a full carbon laptop, ASUS makes one, but there is an other brand who makes them, Acer with his Ferrari one haha
ohh yes that wobbly screen
but for me its normal as i have a tablet...
for the carbon body i am willing to spend (next year) at least 100 to 200 for the chassis as i know its the way to go...

the reason why im opting for an chassis modification is because i have a tablet pc and AFAIK the cheapest metal tablet is 2000+ (which would still make i worth it as my lappy costed 1000 and does not compare in graphics to those x3100 or 4500...)
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09 Apr 2009   #19
Adamd

Windows 7 7100 build
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by itznfb View Post
the false sense of superiority that Apple users have is what gets under my skin. how does being suckered into a marketing campain make you superior?
That is very funny because it is true.

I do have to give props to whoever is doing the outstanding work with the Ad's for Apple.

Without the Ad's Apple would still be nothing and not even considered. The marketing has paid off, but I still think they are spending way way more than they should be. I bet they spend 1 billion + easy on marketing. If Microsoft is spending 300 million and you see the Ad's only once and a while you have to assume Apple is spending at least 5 times that amount.

When was the last time you watched a program on TV (local station) on prime time and not seen an Ad for a Apple product? Most likely it has been months.

But it must be working so they are most likely not going to stop...
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10 Apr 2009   #20
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Adamd View Post
That is very funny because it is true.

I do have to give props to whoever is doing the outstanding work with the Ad's for Apple.

Without the Ad's Apple would still be nothing and not even considered. The marketing has paid off, but I still think they are spending way way more than they should be. I bet they spend 1 billion + easy on marketing. If Microsoft is spending 300 million and you see the Ad's only once and a while you have to assume Apple is spending at least 5 times that amount.

When was the last time you watched a program on TV (local station) on prime time and not seen an Ad for a Apple product? Most likely it has been months.

But it must be working so they are most likely not going to stop...
its the same ad company as the one who made the new pepsi logo ad campain and other big companies ad campains (Mc Donalds is one of the big ones....)
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