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Windows 7: Microsoft wants to put infected PCs in rubber room.

23 Mar 2010   #51
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IceFire View Post
A minimum of 50% of spyware could be avoided if ISP's implemented serverside antivirus solutions...
Why should it be the ISP's responsibility? That is just added expense (which would be passed to the consumer). It is the user's responsibility.


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23 Mar 2010   #52
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

that idea wouldn't work,

I for one do not want my ISP looking at what im downloading, not because im downloading anything dodgy but because i believe that its my data what i do with it is my business, my ISP is merely the conduit through which that data flows, in the same way that the electric company dont ask what im doing with my power, (im excluding really bad things like kiddy porn from this obviously)

for that reason i use a VPN so how exactly would your ISP idea work on that? they have no idea what im doing, its encrypted... therefore ultimate responsibility would still be mine, which is exactly how it should be,

can you imagine the lag if your ISP was checking every single packet for viruses? why should they make more work for themselves? its just a waste of money which would ultimately be passed on to us, the consumers
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23 Mar 2010   #53
Pixelpro

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium
 
 

I dont see how a rubber room can soolve a problem ; but getting all infected pc's off the net is a good idea1
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23 Mar 2010   #54
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pixelpro View Post
I dont see how a rubber room can soolve a problem ; but getting all infected pc's off the net is a good idea1
On the surface, it does sound like a good idea - except sometimes one needs internet access to download tools to clean up an infection.
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23 Mar 2010   #55
schumacher574

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

yeah so...basically if you get malware, you need a new computer? Or you have to purchase a CD with the necessary tools to fix it? bogus.
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23 Mar 2010   #56
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Or you have to take the pc to a specialist or send it in to teh Manufacturer.

Or get the programs from the net using a second computer.
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23 Mar 2010   #57
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Or get the programs from the net using a second computer.
Which the average home user does not have...
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23 Mar 2010   #58
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Product FRED View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Many here have balked at this unique approach, many have claimed this is an attempt by MS to police the computing world, many say AV suites should be improved...

I disagree with all of you! MS isnt the problem, the OS isnt the problem, AV suites are not the problem.

The problem is LOOSE NUTS BEHIND THE KEYBOARD!

I have been building and fixing PCs for 15+ years and I can say that from my personal experience there are many many "dumb" users out there... who 3 years after buying a new PC think they are still protected by their manufacturer supplied AV suite. Many are totally surprised when I show them that AV was a 60 day trial! Security is an afterthought with most home users... unless they have had to pay a Geek Squad Moron $50+ per hour to "remove" an infection. Some people learn from their mistakes, some dont.

Furthermore, many household PCs are controlled by the teenagers in that household... many times mom & dad have no idea that junoir has removed or disabled AV to get faster performance in a game. Many teens also dont read/understand error messages and just click continue. Not to mention BearShare, Limewire, Bittorrents, etc. I think education of users is a key component here!

Since MS OSes account for some 80+% of the worlds computing OSes, I applaud MS for taking such a stand. Now with that said, I am also very leary of how they plan to implement this... It's only an idea at this stage.

We use their OS so we should sit back, relax, and wait to see what happens on this front.
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23 Mar 2010   #59
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Very well stated. You hit the nail right on the head.
I've heard that before!

Thanks Carl!
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23 Mar 2010   #60
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Or get the programs from the net using a second computer.
Which the average home user does not have...
I agree, I wasn't defending MS's point, I was just trying to brainstorm solutions to the problem. As an experienced user, I would download all the tools as soon as possible and use the disc if I get a virus, so I dont have to download while infected. Or use my backup comp to download them. The average home user will not know what programs they should get ahead of time or have a second computer. Most would probably just call Microsoft.
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