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Windows 7: How hard will it be to move to RC

13 Apr 2009   #1
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
How hard will it be to move to RC

Windows 7 head honcho Steven Sinofsky published a post on the E7 blog last week that outlined some changes beta testers will face when the next public milestone is released. The most surprising news was the official announcement that Microsoft will not support upgrades from earlier builds of Windows 7, including the official beta released in January. In fact, the RC build, which is due to be released before the end of May, will block upgrades unless you go through a fairly cumbersome seven-step process (which is, helpfully, documented in the same E7 blog post).

How hard will it be to move to the Windows 7 Release Candidate? | Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report | ZDNet.com


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13 Apr 2009   #2
Crunchy Doodle

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

For me, it's a blessing in disguise. I have had very poor luck with Windows upgrades on any kind. The only thing that does work are so-called Service Packs. I've never had one fail. However, my luck with the various builds of Windows 7 beta is that a fresh install is clean and stable, while my few attempts at upgrades end up as failures. I also have had poor luck with data transfer utilities. They never do what I want. What works for me is to use a portable USB or Firewire drive to backup all the data I think I need and go from there.

Bye.
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13 Apr 2009   #3
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Thats fine, Ive been doing clean installs anyway.
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13 Apr 2009   #4
Romulinx2

Win7 Ultimate x64 on Desktop / Win7 Ultimate x86 on laptop / Win7 x86 Starter on Netbook
 
 

Thanks, it will be worth doing.
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13 Apr 2009   #5
WSZsr

Win 7 7068
 
 

Makes sense. It would be of absolutely no value to MS if they allowed upgrades from previous builds.
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13 Apr 2009   #6
Lebon14

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Clean install > Update
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13 Apr 2009   #7
Studulike

Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WSZsr View Post
Makes sense. It would be of absolutely no value to MS if they allowed upgrades from previous builds.
??????
Why would you say no value???
It is probably one of the most important issues Microsoft face from a marketing point of view.
For example if M$ want people to upgrade there machines from Vista op then they need to convince that people already running Vista can easily upgrade without having to re-install everything. Especially less competent people who end up having to pay people like PC World etc. large amounts of money to do it then still end up losing data. It is easy to say things like that when you have some reasonable knowledge of PC's. You have to remember nowadays most people who own computers are those who have been told its cool to browse the internet, not got a clew what a computer really is and then end up in PC World being told they need this 1000+ machine to browse the internet because it has pretty lights and will last you longer.(Bull**** in other words).
Anyway getting back to the point....... Therefore one would think if there is a Vista upgrade path then I would think there has to be a Windows Beta path also. Remember there is probably a few thousand people who took the plunge and installed build 7000 without a clew what they were really doing, just based on what there m8 told them was a good idea. You only have to look on this forum to see that there are one or two that post the strangest of questions for someone taking the risk of running beta software. I mean if you don't have a proper understanding of computers don't run Beta software.
I for one when the RC comes out will fresh install anyway purely because my machine probably needs it. I will say one thing though, I have done many upgrade versions of Windows 7 and the have gone very well without issue except very slow and you also should always remove any add-on cards in system then re-add back after machine is installed as that makes system more reliable and less chance of failing part way through.
The thing is at the end of the day it is easy to scare monger before a release is published but the truth be told none of us really know untill it comes out. It is a bit like all these users who jump on the bandwagon and say a leak is a fake before they have even taken the time to check, just to mimic the post above them and to try and look like they know what they are talking about. I mean how many people have got it wrong so far about so many leaks......... 7048.. Fake..(Wrong), ........7057 Fake......(Wrong), ...7068.....Fake....(Wrong), etc. etc.
Someone will release a patch anyway that will make it a one click excercise I would think.

Just wait and see thats all I say.
I would almost (I say almost) put money on the fact that an upgrade will be quite easy. M$ need to keep people happy this time round, they don't want another Vista Nightmare.
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13 Apr 2009   #8
echrada

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Studulike, the fact is MS can do what they like, it actually makes sense to clean install RC. Nobody claims that the finished product won't have upgrades.
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13 Apr 2009   #9
Studulike

Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by echrada View Post
Studulike, the fact is MS can do what they like, it actually makes sense to clean install RC. Nobody claims that the finished product won't have upgrades.
That is true, M$ can do what they like and often do, I just think it unlikely that it will be that hard to do an upgrade if you really want to. Most of the system gets replaced on an upgrade anyway.
Like I said someone will probably release a patch anyway.

Hell i guess we will all be rushing out now when RC1 comes out to see if we can upgrade. lol
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13 Apr 2009   #10
WSZsr

Win 7 7068
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Studulike View Post
??????
Why would you say no value???
It is probably one of the most important issues Microsoft face from a marketing point of view.
For example if M$ want people to upgrade there machines from Vista op then they need to convince that people already running Vista can easily upgrade without having to re-install everything. Especially less competent people who end up having to pay people like PC World etc. large amounts of money to do it then still end up losing data. It is easy to say things like that when you have some reasonable knowledge of PC's. You have to remember nowadays most people who own computers are those who have been told its cool to browse the internet, not got a clew what a computer really is and then end up in PC World being told they need this 1000+ machine to browse the internet because it has pretty lights and will last you longer.(Bull**** in other words).
Anyway getting back to the point....... Therefore one would think if there is a Vista upgrade path then I would think there has to be a Windows Beta path also. Remember there is probably a few thousand people who took the plunge and installed build 7000 without a clew what they were really doing, just based on what there m8 told them was a good idea. You only have to look on this forum to see that there are one or two that post the strangest of questions for someone taking the risk of running beta software. I mean if you don't have a proper understanding of computers don't run Beta software.
I for one when the RC comes out will fresh install anyway purely because my machine probably needs it. I will say one thing though, I have done many upgrade versions of Windows 7 and the have gone very well without issue except very slow and you also should always remove any add-on cards in system then re-add back after machine is installed as that makes system more reliable and less chance of failing part way through.
The thing is at the end of the day it is easy to scare monger before a release is published but the truth be told none of us really know untill it comes out. It is a bit like all these users who jump on the bandwagon and say a leak is a fake before they have even taken the time to check, just to mimic the post above them and to try and look like they know what they are talking about. I mean how many people have got it wrong so far about so many leaks......... 7048.. Fake..(Wrong), ........7057 Fake......(Wrong), ...7068.....Fake....(Wrong), etc. etc.
Someone will release a patch anyway that will make it a one click excercise I would think.

Just wait and see thats all I say.
I would almost (I say almost) put money on the fact that an upgrade will be quite easy. M$ need to keep people happy this time round, they don't want another Vista Nightmare.
Vista? I never mentioned Vista. I'm talking about "upgrades from previous builds" of Windows 7!
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