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Windows 7: R.I.P. Microsoft Office.

02 Apr 2010   #21
manhunter2826

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

Just in case people missed, a previous poster (I think it was JMH?) mentioned this interesting link a few days back.
Dark clouds gather over online security


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02 Apr 2010   #22
manhunter2826

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

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I don't think that remote ONLINE data storage will become the norm either -- you've only got to look at the recent incidents in even supposedly advanced Western countries where sensitive data has been left on public Train Carriages or in Taxi cabs (DEFENCE stuff BTW in the UK) to realize that the only sensible way to secure your data is to have it yourself.
Barnet council in hair-raising USB stick security breach
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02 Apr 2010   #23
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by manhunter2826 View Post
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I don't think that remote ONLINE data storage will become the norm either -- you've only got to look at the recent incidents in even supposedly advanced Western countries where sensitive data has been left on public Train Carriages or in Taxi cabs (DEFENCE stuff BTW in the UK) to realize that the only sensible way to secure your data is to have it yourself.
Barnet council in hair-raising USB stick security breach

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“The advice we have received from the police indicates that this was an opportunistic burglary looking for high-value items rather than specifically to steal data. This assessment of the risk has involved taking advice from the police and staff trained in safeguarding children from within the council.”
“Our safeguarding team felt there may be risks associated with the potential identification of one child. This issue has been dealt with.”...................


This is just the stuff I was referring to -- and "The Safeguarding Team" -- who is it -- probably also outsourced to India or elsewhere.

My experience with Local authorities (World wide and not just in the UK - they aren't the worst by any manner of means) is that they probably couldn't organise a booze up in a Brewery or a Prayer Meeting in the Vatican.

I think if I were a farmer I'd rather let a FOX guard my chickens rather than Barnet Council's "safe guarding team" look after my data.

Cheers
jimbo
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02 Apr 2010   #24
garysgold

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
I agree with those who doubt the cloud. Sorry, it just isn't going to happen for me. I know they (who ever they are) will tell you the cloud is safe. My answer to that is B.S. The cloud is still a computer system, hence, once it becomes popular enough the bad people will be looking at a way to bring it down, and again, sorry, albeit I have no doubt they will accomplish just that.
Ditto.
+3
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02 Apr 2010   #25
wpurcell

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I agree also. "Cloud-be-Gone"! I shall not indulge.
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02 Apr 2010   #26
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Really now, I just don't need the cloud; my head has been in one for along time. . .
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02 Apr 2010   #27
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Having been with companies that manage all their systems internally. i would say a corperate cloud system that has no connection to the outside world would be a good idea but there are risks. So i will do the old Pros/Cons thing now

Pros:
Updating Software - With everyone accessing Word (for example) online instead of on the individual PC, updates, upgrades and version control for the software become easier to implement and maintain.

Compatibility - Compatibility Testing would be only for the interface that all programs on the Cloud run through instead of each individual program on the PC's.

Security - Laptops - If evrything is stored online, data is less able to be compromised from stolen or lost laptops. Users would not be able to save on their own computers so data would only be available by gaining access to the network itself.

Troubleshooting - If someone has an issue on why their software is not working, the helpdesk would not need to go to the Users PC, instead he/she would check the software stored on the cloud for replication of issue.

Installation and Licensing - Corperations sometimes get into trouble when people dont put the right licensing on each installation. mistakes like this cost a lot of money. installing on a server and then regulating who has access is easier than verifying each PC that has the software is licensed properly.

Transition to Cloud - right now most huge corperations already have a secure internal network, so moving towards this is less of a step.





Cons:
Working offline - if you loose connection to the network, you cant do any work. you would need a constant VPN connect whenever working away from the office. No more editing documents mid-flight.

Security - Network - RSA just got hacked to bits (pun intended) and hackers are constantly pushing the security sector. Data all stored together could be compromised if one access point is discovered and exploited. (dont put all your eggs in one basket)

Issues affect all users - while troubleshooting an issue would be easier, when an issue arises, all users are affected. So, for example, instead of one user not being able to access software on thier PC, no user would be able to access the software on the Cloud.
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02 Apr 2010   #28
Max Peck

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

You can have my copy of Office2003 when you can pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

-Max
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02 Apr 2010   #29
TheSchaft

Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post

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Cons:
Working offline - if you loose connection to the network, you cant do any work. you would need a constant VPN connect whenever working away from the office. No more editing documents mid-flight....
Add to that "If the server goes down, you can't do any work."

A part of the "cloud" going down is as bad, if not worse, than losing the network connection, and it will happen - it has everytime someone has tried "thin client" networking.

Cut off access to the mail server by the front office and you had better have a good place to hide. Same for the web server.

Thanks, but no thanks.
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02 Apr 2010   #30
Tinkerdog

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
I am not sure businesses will want their data available on line, either.
A company would be insane to put their data online, then process from there in realtime.

Let's see...

A) Security? Who's eyes are prying on my data? Government? Other Governments?? - How secure from enemy attack?

B) Availablity - Server's do crash - Data does get lost....

C) Trustworthiness - Data does get corrupt - do they have always reliable backups?

D) Speed of Access - How fast does their "cloud" respond? How fast does the data get back for processing?
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