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Windows 7: R.I.P. Microsoft Office.

10 Dec 2010   #61
FerchogtX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit Build 7600 / Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

No. no... this is a no no to me... I WILL NEVER use the cloud... who can guarantee me that my data will never get lost, corrupted or hacked by some liveless nerd who likes to stole information... who will ever guarantee that my data will be more secure than in my desktop or laptop? I had never an attack on any of my systems until now, and I will never have (simply because 3rd world countries are not for hackers interest...)...

I don't trust on the cloud, just because I cannot mannage my data localy as I actually do, our data can be seen by anyone that managges the cloud, and even used against us, remember that there are many **cough** governments that are interested on know what we got on our PC's, what we do and store...

No to the cloud, yes to free computing

See ya!!!!


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11 Dec 2010   #62
sablegsd

7 64 bit Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ruudfood View Post
Just a few questions from me:
- anyone here do internet banking? Or even online shopping? Are you worried about security?
- when was the last time you couldn't get an internet connection and how long did that last?
- when was the last time your preferred mail server went down?

So what's the big deal? Security? Connectivity? Reliability? I'm sure they're all covered.

I don't expect many consumers will be using the cloud but for businesses it would make perfect sense.

No on the online banking. I have a seperate checking account that I use exclusively for amazon, ebay, pay pal, etc. I live in the sticks and sometimes I think the hampsters in the wheels get really tired and I lose service all the time.
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11 Dec 2010   #63
Darician

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

The Cloud? This reminds me of the annual "20xx is the year of desktop Linux" articles. People as it is barely want to pay for Office once but to pay a monthly subscription fee for it, they'll just spit in Microsoft's face.
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11 Dec 2010   #64
KremmenUK

MSDN Home Premium
 
 

We have a number of Cloud applications at work and they are horrendously slow compared to local apps, especially in peak Internet times.

What Microsoft are after is a steady revenue stream instead of revenues just when new versions are released. Office on the web is currently free as they sucker people in before they announce an hourly fee (IMO).

It probably won't be long before they want us all to have dumb terminals and use an online OS as well.

If Office ever dies I will stick with whatever is the last version I can install and use locally.
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11 Dec 2010   #65
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ruudfood View Post
Just a few questions from me:
- anyone here do internet banking? Or even online shopping? Are you worried about security?
- when was the last time you couldn't get an internet connection and how long did that last?
- when was the last time your preferred mail server went down?

So what's the big deal? Security? Connectivity? Reliability? I'm sure they're all covered.

I don't expect many consumers will be using the cloud but for businesses it would make perfect sense.

Answer 1 OK but that's for single transactions -- it's not about actually doing continuous work for example developing presentations etc. People don't in general have problems with "Transactional Data" such as accessing a Database / SQL server etc. For example accessing Cash via an ATM is "Transactional Data".

This is totally different to things like creating Multimedia, editing documents, developing applications, testing products etc etc.

Answer 2 --ever travelled fairly long distances by trains / ships etc and want to do some work on a computer. These mostly don't have WiFi available and when they do the speed is usually so dismally slow as to make anything other than a basic Net surf unuseable.

Answer 3 Mail server went dows two days ago --it happens. Sometimes it "goes down" because of Upgrades etc etc -- even a Planned Outage is still an outage. Hardware / software in a cloud situation will need to be updated far more regularly due to the sheer volume of traffic using it.

Cheers
jimbo
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11 Dec 2010   #66
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

As much as I fear smarter minds than mine hacking the cloud and grabbing personal and corporate data we should prepare our selves for the benefits and limitations of this newer technology. I can see advantages and I fear many ramifications. Like watching over our elected representatives we also must take a up close and personal responsibility with any sensitive data!
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11 Dec 2010   #67
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
As much as I fear smarter minds than mine hacking the cloud and grabbing personal and corporate data we should prepare our selves for the benefits and limitations of this newer technology. I can see advantages and I fear many ramifications. Like watching over our elected representatives we also must take a up close and personal responsibility with any sensitive data!
In most instances, whether in cyberspace or life, pitfalls have advantages that attract the unwary, and those who believe that they can outwit the forces/odds that lurk in the bottom of the holes. Those who actually have the wits or wisdom to not be harmed by such devices, are those who avoid them altogether. There is no advantage of submitting one's personal data to the trust of unknown persons or forces that outweight any minor disadvantage or managing for one's self.

Whether in personal life or business, one should know and trust those who handle their info/affairs.
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11 Dec 2010   #68
richnrockville

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
I agree with those who doubt the cloud. Sorry, it just isn't going to happen for me. I know they (who ever they are) will tell you the cloud is safe. My answer to that is B.S. The cloud is still a computer system, hence, once it becomes popular enough the bad people will be looking at a way to bring it down, and again, sorry, albeit I have no doubt they will accomplish just that.
Ditto.
ditto again.
HIPPA might frown on the cloud and financial institutions are afraid enough of
their data that many have completly closed inhouse lans that are never never
connected to the internet.

So there.

Rich
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11 Dec 2010   #69
win7use

 

Microsoft office has a cloud version

i think its still beta but i also heard it's going to be free, but not sure

Microsoft Office 2010 Starts Ascension to the Cloud - NYTimes.com
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11 Dec 2010   #70
Ryan2320

Windows Seven x64
 
 

I think this already happened because with Skydrive you can edit some documents already in the cloud. You can't do everything that the retail versions can do.. but enough for you to be pleased.

You can even add new documents like word files, power point, excel, and even onenote files..
I believe you can also share files with your friends as well.

Now Microsoft is putting together Office 365 which is aimed and businesses and that's all in the cloud.

Ryan
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