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Windows 7: Win 8 Server Will Support Exclusively 64-Bit (x64) CPU

09 Apr 2010   #11
cclloyd9785

Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Adamd View Post
Good!

I know Microsoft is kind of stuck with big upgrades because to many people have old hardware but I think this is great.

Sure they might lose some business but they must keep doing this to keep up with the times. I am just surprised it is taking this long.

Just remember, that Windows 8 is planning on coming out in 2012, in which many old computer users will have upgraded to a cheap but much more powerful computer. For example, my grandma recently upgraded from Windows 2k to a new machine with 7 HP. Think that by 2012, there will be a lot of people that have done something similar.


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10 Apr 2010   #12
z3r010

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by abuttino View Post
Isn't this kinda old news?

Server 2008 R2 and Exchange 2010 are 64bit only anyway?
Yep, I couldn't understand why this is news either, Server 2008 R2 is already x64 only
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10 Apr 2010   #13
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by z3r010 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by abuttino View Post
Isn't this kinda old news?

Server 2008 R2 and Exchange 2010 are 64bit only anyway?
Yep, I couldn't understand why this is news either, Server 2008 R2 is already x64 only
Yeah, I commented about that same thing in my response above as well.
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10 Apr 2010   #14
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
I don't understand why desktop OS (like W7) still have a 32-bit option at all. But it really surprises me that 64-bit-only is something new for servers. Does someone really operate a professional server with less than 4 GB? I mean it is not WHS, it is an (expensive) professional server OS we are talking about here. Or am I missing something here?

Getting rid of 32-bit support is long overdue.

But I don't understand ditching Itanium support, especially since Intel keeps making them. Not sure what OS they will be using then...

Hi there
You obviously don't work in an environment where there might be over 30,000 desktops still running OS'es such as Windows 2000 and XP.

Small installations can change rapidly but large organistations such as for example SHELL, IBM etc etc can't replace the HUGE number of workstations still running these OS'es overnight even if they DO change their servers.

Cheers
jimbo
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10 Apr 2010   #15
HerrKaLeun

W7 Pro 64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HerrKaLeun View Post
Hi there
You obviously don't work in an environment where there might be over 30,000 desktops still running OS'es such as Windows 2000 and XP.

Small installations can change rapidly but large organistations such as for example SHELL, IBM etc etc can't replace the HUGE number of workstations still running these OS'es overnight even if they DO change their servers.

Cheers
jimbo
I get your point. I work in an organization with 1,600 PCs. they are on a 3-year replacement cycle, so old hardware is not such an issue. the multifunction printers etc. devices are leased too, so they are up to date. But they don't switch to "7" before SP 1 comes out, and then only for new PCs (probably start 3 months after SP1 comes out). I was promised to at least get 64 bit then. Currently it is all XP 32-bit. This might be compatible to old hard and software. but compatibility to new hard and software is horrible. Try using Autocad on a 32-bit 4GB PC and you know what I mean. The problem here is that they treat a secretary's IT needs the same as an engineer's. For writing a letter, it doesn't really matter, 16 bit probably would do . but when using software (that cost $ 700 subscription every year) that has 8 GB recommended minimum, it really matters that you have strong hardware and OS. My PC is one year old, so I won't get a new one before in 2 years. The time and frustration when the software crashes when running out of memory, probably will be worth a couple of PCs with 8 GB and an SSD. But they pay me by the hour, that gives them the right to save a few bucks on hardware and OS (and I installed the software at home on my 8 GB rig as well... runs like a charm with no single crash)
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12 Apr 2010   #16
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all
With even small machines able to run Virtual Machines I can't see why MS doesn't go for full 64 bit support only in the latest server and applications (Office 2010 for example).

Anybody needing 32 bit versions can always run these OS'es in a Virtual Machine -- I'm running some W2K3 servers quite happily as Virtual machines --these won't be got rid of for a few YEARS yet whatever new OS comes out.

The desktop is another matter however - no organisation wants to suddenly change a shedload of fairly decent computers currently - especially if they all perform OK and run the main corporate applications.

The "32 bit" compability need is overblown these days for corporate servers.

The only people who will have significant problems are those heavily into Video editing and game playing until these apps are 64 bit. These apps unlike a lot of corporate and office type stuff access the REAL hardware and therefore are difficult to virtualise.

Cheers
jimbo
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