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Windows 7: Windows 7's new feature: Windows XP Mode

27 Apr 2009   #41
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Of course you need RAM for the VM but my point was that since most corporate desktops will have at least 2GB RAM in them anyway a 512MB VM or even a 1GB VM will run easily.

Most corporate desktops don't really run very intensive applications anyway (Photoshop / video / multi-media editinf and production excluded) so the "Overhead" of a VM is not very much.

Here's an example of small (768MB) XP VM running SAP, Photoshop, and IE without ANY problems -- the HOST OS doesn't feel sluggish at all even while the VM is running. This is running on a 3rd party product VMWARE.

I'd expect Microsoft's "Compatability" feature to be even more efficient than VMWARE's implementation as it will be designed for specific purposes whereas VMWARE is more of a "development tool" and has to run a multiple of different Guest OS'es.

A VM doesn't have to involve a lot of overhead and in any case if it will run your legacy apps it's usually well worth while in any case.




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27 Apr 2009   #42
bodmas

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 bits
 
 

now in win7 for "Repair your Computer" option you need not to boot from DVD or recovery disc unlikely in vista but this "Repair your computer" tool is inbuilt given in "Advanced boot options" screen which comes to you when you press F8 during reboot. here is screen shot:

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27 Apr 2009   #43
myzr7

Windows 7 Ulti. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garbanzo View Post
this is exciting, but it's also disappointing. i was planning to just grab Home Premium. i might have to get Ultimate just for this. hrmm...
Right I agree. Killer app? Maybe with this MS has just pushed many of us casuals up to professionals.
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27 Apr 2009   #44
Scotteq

Windows 7 (x64)
 
 

If I may add my two coppers...

I do not feel there is much value add for a home user for the simple reason that 7 runs any recent windows app just fine, and without any need for virtualization. I'm sure that enthusiasts can, and will, find the exceptions - even if only just to play with it. But Mom and Pop make due with whatever OS comes on the new computer.


For a corporate environment, it's a little different. And I'm a little surprised the obvious implication has so far been missed: The Virtualized environment is *not* there to transform your Pentium HT el~Cheapo~Corporate~sh*tbox into a modern machine by giving it a facelift. Because, well, face it: A sh*tbox is a sh*tbox is a sh*tbox. And you'd be wasting your time to give it a new OS, so you can virtualize the OS that's already there, and load down the old dog even more than it already is. As pointed out already, that would be pretty dumb and a lot of work for little to no benefit.

It *IS* there so when you finally do take the thing out back and shoot it - (as should have probably been done years ago, except nobody wanted to allocate budget for a new PC) - you can buy a new Win 7 PC as the replacement and have the confidence that you can run an XP SP3 environment. Why? So your new PC that replaced some 10 year old piece of garbage can present itself to the remaining 10 year old pieces of garbage as "One Of Their Own".

Then over time you can transition to a Win 7/Server 2006+

It's an upgrade path, existing to provide the necessary backward compatibility with whatever legacy stuff is laying around so nobody has to downgrade to XP any more. No more, no less.
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27 Apr 2009   #45
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

So MS is making people buy the more pricier editions just to get this virtualization add on?

Some people still have old programs they want to use...this is ridiculous...
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27 Apr 2009   #46
couchcommando

w7 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ikilledkenny View Post
Do not worry. I speak bad Spanish. I know how you feel
this is America! use contractions! jk

also, i know Vista used "compatibility mode" personally i have yet to find an application that Vista 64 bit wont work (even old stuff). although im mostly playing games but i do some app programing etc for school... i never knew why people got so upset over compatibility in Vista
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27 Apr 2009   #47
Scotteq

Windows 7 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
So MS is making people buy the more pricier editions just to get this virtualization add on?

Some people still have old programs they want to use...this is ridiculous...

What old programs don't run? Is there a specific issue? If it's merely 'cost of the OS', and for whatever reason you must virtualize then figure the difference in price of the operating system versions against {your existing + VM Ware}. Your answer is whichever's cheaper.

If it's a question of Home Premium or Business, then let me ask: Do you use your own 3rd party apps for media? Meaning, you habitually replace Media Player and Movie Maker with an aftermarket one you like better? If so, then I'd recommend buying Business as your baseline, even for home usage. You're going to replace the media stuff anyhow, the Business version gets you some tools the home version does not, and you can get the virtual stuff for free.
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27 Apr 2009   #48
www2

Seven b7100
 
 
help

Hi

I have build 7100 trial. I want to run Windows Virtual XP Mode as new subsystem. How do I it? I know that I may use "Troubleshoot compatibility" but I want complete XP as on this image ( http://windows7news.com/wp-content/u...windows_xp.jpg )
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27 Apr 2009   #49
ikilledkenny

Windows 7 Professional, Windows Longhorn 4074
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by www2 View Post
Hi

I have build 7100 trial. I want to run Windows Virtual XP Mode as new subsystem. How do I it? I know that I may use "Troubleshoot compatibility" but I want complete XP as on this image ( http://windows7news.com/wp-content/u...windows_xp.jpg )
They don't have it out yet. I have the same build that you have, only activated (legally, using a MS key, for the record).
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27 Apr 2009   #50
Handycam

 

I'm confused on what's going on here..

This is what I got so far: "You can basically run XP on win7"... ?
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