Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Germany: Wireless owner responsible for others download

13 May 2010   #1
Kari

 
Germany: Wireless owner responsible for others download

Quote:
Wireless owner responsible for someone else's download

Wireless internet subscribers who don’t properly secure their connection with a password can be held partly responsible if third parties use their account to illegally download music, a German court ruled late Wednesday.

The Federal Court in Karlsruhe ordered a wireless subscriber to pay legal costs after someone else used his connection to download the Sebastian Hämer song Sommer unseres Lebens (“The Summer of our Love) while he was on holiday.

However, the court rejected the record label's claim for compensation, meaning the verdict was only a partial victory for the music industry and other copyright holders, whose revenues are being hammered by illegal downloading over the internet.
Full story: Wireless owner responsible for someone else's download - The Local


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
13 May 2010   #2
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Is RIAA in Germany also? To me, this falls under the category of frivolous lawsuits.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #3
Kari

 

This court order sucks, but it's now official here in Germany.

Music industry celebrates:
Quote:
The Music Industry Association also welcomed the verdict, with head Stefan Michalk saying: “No one can dodge responsibility with the commonly used defence that a third person abused their WLAN connection.”
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

13 May 2010   #4
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Wow. Only a matter of time before that nonsense hits the USA.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #5
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

What a freaking stupid decision!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #6
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

This is equivalent to having your car stolen, and the thief kills someone in a hit and run, then being held responsible for the death, because you didn't change the key and ignition switch from what it had new.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #7
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Yeah, that is a /terrible/ precident.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #8
noobvious

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
 
 

Is there no common sense at all in the legal system?
(and is that ^^ a dumb question?)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #9
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

There is sense in the legal system, however there is a tremendous amount of technical ignorance. The judge and jury are generally all pretty "Stupid" when it comes to things that get technical. Well most of us are in any technical area we are not already experts...

So unfortuantely technical or high concept cases like this very frequenly go very bad.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
13 May 2010   #10
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
There is sense in the legal system, however there is a tremendous amount of technical ignorance. The judge and jury are generally all pretty "Stupid" when it comes to things that get technical. Well most of us are in any technical area we are not already experts...

So unfortuantely technical or high concept cases like this very frequenly go very bad.
I don't think "stupidity" is an excuse here for this ruling. Take another member's analogy of a car.

Or what if someone uses Bill Gates's telephone to commit a crime. Should Bill Gates be liable and be fined or sent to prison for another person's crime?

If Bill Gates leaves his house doors unlocked and an intruder falls down the steps, should Bill be held responsible? No.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Germany: Wireless owner responsible for others download




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
New owner but cannot remove previous owner as administrator
I recently bought an Acer AX3810 with Vista 7 Home Premium 64 bit from the widow of my neighbor. I had transferred all his personal files and copied all the photographs to an external hard drive for her then deleted all the files using "Eraser". I cannot seem to be able to delete the previous...
General Discussion
Internet for Online Gaming in Germany?
Hi, I recently moved to Germany and need to know what the requirements are that an internet connection must fulfill so that it is right for playing games like Black Ops 2 online? What are the options? What service providers are good and what is affordable? What speed should the connection...
Network & Sharing
XBOX and W7 suspended by court in Germany (and it's not Apr 1)
Hi there I couldn't believe this when I read it -- can Lawyers really believe W7 infringes Motorola's patents. BBC News - Motorola wins Xbox and Windows 7 ban in Germany Motorola's phones used to be brilliant but like Nokia they've lost their way -- this type of action is probably the last...
News
2010 Ice Hockey Championship, May 7th to 23rd, Germany
After two days, we already have two big surprises. First, Germany won USA in opening game 2 - 1, in front of world record 77,000 public (Germany defeat U.S. in front of record crowd | Reuters). And then, a day later, my dear native Finland lost to Denmark, 1 goal against Danes 4 goals (Denmark...
Chillout Room
Germany warns against use of Firefox browser!
The German government has warned its citizenry against the use of the Firefox browser due to security issues. BBC News - Germany warns against use of Firefox browser :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
News
CeBIT 2010 in Hanover, Germany
Any of you Europeans coming? I'm going Thursday with some customers, Sunday with mates. CeBIT tech fair to open with 3D and smart gadgets - The Local About CeBIT - CeBIT Kari
News


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:59.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App