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07 May 2009   #421
Satch

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Absolutely, positively incredible.
I'd love to know Night Hawk's motive behind all this. Is he in some way connected to MS? He seems to be very helpful otherwise, just reluctant to back up his claims on this one issue he is trying to press home.


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07 May 2009   #422
metoo

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
There's far more then that involved. I received the following from a contast and am still waiting for a link for the following article that was brought to my attention.
Here is your link mate ISPs assist in cutting off file-sharing users

It has nothing to do with the fact that if a hash matches then the files being compared are identical.
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07 May 2009   #423
YozMan

Windows 7 Home Premium 6.1.7.7600 Build 7600
 
 

I dunno about most of this stuff but I did read a article by pcworld which stated that a leaked version of the RC was in fact tampered with, I have no idea which one, I'm just adding my two cents.
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07 May 2009   #424
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by YozMan View Post
I dunno about most of this stuff but I did read a article by pcworld which stated that a leaked version of the RC was in fact tampered with, I have no idea which one, I'm just adding my two cents.
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Pirated copies of Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) on file-sharing sites contain malware, according to users who have downloaded the upgrade.
more than enough to call this a editorial...
reminds me of fox...
"some people say"
if you are smart enough to check timestamps and to check hashes...
you should be more than set..
i have said this before in the past...
and unlike these people Nil_Einne in the link here has the same thinking as i do...
nice to see another sane person...
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07 May 2009   #425
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

What people don't seem to grasp is how well these things can be tampered with by someone who would be considered a top notch programmer in the industry. They know how to falsify time stamps as well as other things giving the appearance of the genuine article by simply changing some of the coding itself not the size of any particular file.
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07 May 2009   #426
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
What people don't seem to grasp is how well these things can be tampered with by someone who would be considered a top notch programmer in the industry. They know how to falsify time stamps as well as other things giving the appearance of the genuine article by simply changing some of the coding itself not the size of any particular file.
you might also be able to grasp is what these "top" coders and crypto analysts understand...
timestamps can be falsified of course ....
the udf filesystem is well know and that is possible...
but what happens even if you change the stamps is something...


the hashes change too...



idk if you have noticed but in all my comments i have never once mentioned md5..
why?
because with enough computation power (and btw some crays should be enough...
those are beautiful systems you know...
getting to see those i was amazed)
you can create a md5 collision
but that is beside the point...
there is a way using a distrubiting brute force attack on sha-1(2^63 is a very large number...btw...)
and i believe it would have been reported by other more prominent security websites i trust saying "Sha-1 collision seen in the wild"
and so far nothing...
which means one and only thing
there has to date not one sha-1 collision at all that has been verified...
like i said the sha-1 in conficker.a was never able to be spoofed in time which tells you something...
i just wished they started used sha-2 or md6 (which the lastest conficker variants uses ) as this cannot be broken with all the computing power in world involved...
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07 May 2009   #427
Airbot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.
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07 May 2009   #428
darkassain

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot View Post
The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.
you are right airbot...
think this thread should be closed a sticky be made and closed that one too?...
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07 May 2009   #429
Satch

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot View Post
The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.
Not entirely true, especially for those still running the leaked "official" RC. But in saying that there is nothing stopping me from downloading the version from MS and installing it!
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07 May 2009   #430
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot View Post
The only thing that matters now is we can all get the ''Official Windows 7 RC", so all this Hash comparison and possible tampered builds talk is old and is not really necessary anymore.
You know I readily agree with that one already! All anyone that wants it the right way has to do is simply pay a visit to... https://www.microsoft.com/windows/wi.../download.aspx

Now I can simply use winver and actually see what was missing on the leaked version namely...



Still pointing at 3/1/2010 for reduced functions!
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