Windows 7 May Not Be Much Faster Than Vista

Blackhawk7188 · 09 May 2009

Night Hawk said:

What people seem to forget is that the first 7 builds out were beta stages with only a portion of the services running there. 7 was simply progressed far enough where the public testing could take place for things like testing on all kinds of systems with different environments for additional data on problems and potential problems as well.

From that point the various labs go to work on those as well as further refinements until everything is complied into the RC builds no longer in beta form. You're now starting to see more background processes running as well as a few more features available except once again Windows Mail. The RTM will or maybe will see that there as default or a separate item to download.

Windows Mail has been completely removed for 7, you have to get "Window Live Mail" through the windows live essentials in order to get it, at least I had to. Isn't the RC still a Beta test too?, so wouldnt there still be bugs to be worked out of it?

petrossa · 09 May 2009

Blackhawk7188 said:

Windows Mail has been completely removed for 7, you have to get "Window Live Mail" through the windows live essentials in order to get it, at least I had to. Isn't the RC still a Beta test too?, so wouldnt there still be bugs to be worked out of it?

That and the debug code i guess. Still all well and done the only reason to adapt w7 for me would be is that you can switch audioendpoints without needing to reload the app.

Vista SP2, with a good skinner, is as pretty as can be and by now pretty well supported for x64 platform. On my rig Vista now outperforms w7 RC7100 .......

Night Hawk · 09 May 2009

Blackhawk7188 said:

Windows Mail has been completely removed for 7, you have to get "Window Live Mail" through the windows live essentials in order to get it, at least I had to. Isn't the RC still a Beta test too?, so wouldnt there still be bugs to be worked out of it?

I'm afraid that's not the case at all if you look in the Programs directory. The Windows Mail folder is still sitting there. While Vista was in RC form it was disabled there as well until the final retail release. The Live Hotmail can be installed on XP and Vista as well as 7 being a totally separate item there.

chev65 · 09 May 2009

Actually it's the computer that makes the Op system faster not the other way around. Faster computer = faster Op system.

kpo6969 · 09 May 2009

chev65 said:

Actually it's the computer that makes the Op system faster not the other way around. Faster computer = faster Op system.

Don't forget about the person sitting at the keyboard also..:)

Night Hawk · 09 May 2009

Well if you have a ...ssssslowwwww... c... p.... u.... and only a small amount of memory installed things will certainly tend to .......ddddddrag on a bit. When going to help out someone with a single core on an old case good gosh! wiait and wait and wait while Windows loads following the slower post tests on the old museum piece.

kpo6969 · 09 May 2009

Night Hawk said:

Well if you have a ...ssssslowwwww... c... p.... u.... and only a small amount of memory installed things will certainly tend to .......ddddddrag on a bit. When going to help out someone with a single core on an old case good gosh! wiait and wait and wait while Windows loads following the slower post tests on the old museum piece.

I think I'm allowed a post once in a while that may be considered frivilous with no other motivation involved..

Al least you got something out of it..

Night Hawk · 09 May 2009

kpo6969 said:

I think I'm allowed a post once in a while that may be considered frivilous with no other motivation involved..

Al least you got something out of it..

And what was that? The minimum system requirements for Vista were less then what will be the recommended for 7. For Vista, http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...uirements.aspx

Even with 2gb of memory and a 2ghz cpu Vista was seen as sssslowww... compared to it's own predacessor XP by many. The opposite even with the RCs now out still seems to hold true that 7 is faster at starting up, shutting, and overall seeing a performance increase.

What kind of computer do I need to run the RC?

These are the Microsoft minimum hardware recommendations for systems that will be running the RC. These recommendations are specific to this release and are subject to change.

"Windows 7 RC system requirements:

1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 GB RAM (32-bit) / 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available disk space (32-bit) / 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics processor with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver

Note: Some product features of Windows 7, such as the ability to watch and record live TV or navigation through the use of "touch," may require advanced or additional hardware." Windows 7 Release Candidate Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Now what's that? 7 sees 1gb of memory(x86), 2gb(x64) rec while Vista saw 512mb? 1ghz cpu minimum for both.

Blackhawk7188 · 09 May 2009

Once you remove all of the unnecessary services and programs that run in the background my Vista is running smoother and faster than my Windows 7. Vista shuts down about 5 seconds shorter, actually almost instant anymore, while Windows 7 takes about 10 seconds or so. On boot Vista saves about 4 to 5 seconds compared to Win7. Both OS are 64 bit on all the same hardware. I removed the same services from both OSes but Win7 has ones that Vista doesnt and I didnt want to shut them down for no reason and have disaster happen, and actually vista at idle uses less memory than Win7, 19% on Vista, 26% on Win7.

I am sure that once it is out of testing it will be faster than Vista but for now I think Vista still has Win7 beat a little on speed and responsiveness, at least on my system.

scaramonga · 09 May 2009

Who cares which is faster?.........Win7 is 'usable', Vista was, at best, 'bearable' :)

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