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Windows 7: How a silly phone for teens reveals MS's plan for us all

06 Jun 2010   #11
osholt

Windows 7 Profesional x86, Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
 
 

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The cloud is the future in most non commercial and even some commercial sectors whether you like it or not.

I for one am totally happy with the idea of the cloud... as long as the server it's stored on is upstairs next to the router.

That could be the next big thing. Personal cloud computing.

I mean all of us on this forum have a lot of our post stored on some server somewhere either controlled by Google, Microsoft, AOL or Yahoo and no one seams to object to that? Heck, a lot of us even trust our money online with online banking and online retail.

The next logical step is for more things to go the way of email, web apps etc.

I admit although being a cloud supporter I still prefer to have all my really important stuff right here on my PC and not on the cloud.

Oli
I'm not completely against the idea of cloud computing...I just think that having all of your info, documents, pics etc. out there instead of stored locally is a stupidly bad idea. If MS ever goes to a fully cloud OS...then I will keep Windows 7 or 8 or whatever their last non-Cloud OS is.
This is why I'm saying personal cloud computing.

You get a copy of Windows Home Server and put it on a storage server PC (just a mid /low spec one) and access everything from YOUR cloud, no one else can use your cloud unless you let them.

It's kind of a best of both worlds; the files/pictures are stored both locally and on the cloud (cloud and local being the same thing).

Although this all relies on upload speeds getting much better or for SDSL to become cheap.

Oli


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06 Jun 2010   #12
blackroseMD1

Windows 10 Tech Preview 9926 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by osholt View Post
This is why I'm saying personal cloud computing.

You get a copy of Windows Home Server and put it on a storage server PC (just a mid /low spec one) and access everything from YOUR cloud, no one else can use your cloud unless you let them.

It's kind of a best of both worlds; the files/pictures are stored both locally and on the cloud (cloud and local being the same thing).

Although this all relies on upload speeds getting much better or for SDSL to become cheap.

Oli
Yeah, that seems like a good compromise. I could definitely go for that. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
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07 Jun 2010   #13
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
It's all about money . Your money.
Microsoft is a business, not a charity. Money is what makes the world go round. Without it, you starve. Every business is looking out for its bottom line, nothing more.
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07 Jun 2010   #14
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I see there is a need to spell it out.

We will all be paying a monthly/usage fee at some time in the not too distant future.

It will no longer be a case of pay for the o/s once and use it for as long/as much as you like.

The precise business model has not been decided yet. The fee may be for combined use of o/s and online services.

It may just be for online services and the o/s will just be peripheral - as a way of getting to the online services.

It may be you get the o/s ( e.g. Windows ) included in your package. If you want to go with Google , perhaps you can still get Windows, but have to buy it separately.

It will be introduced gradually. MS and Google appear to be the only players. No idea what Apple will do.

I haven't heard they are setting up the massive base required to service it. Perhaps they will throw in with Google, too soon to say.

In any event, whatever the precise details are thrashed out to be, it is coming.

It has been obvious for a long time.
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07 Jun 2010   #15
Boris

W7 64b - Leopard 10.6.2 - Ubuntu 10.10 (MBP Snow Leopard 10.6.3)
 
 

Lot of wishful thinking going on in this article. True MS is a giant, but slow to act and with little vision. There market share seems to hold them back. Just look at the markets Apple has opened up: ipod, iphone, ipad, itunes store, app store. MS is still windows and office only, only reacting to changes in the market at the moment.

I still remember the way MS responded to the introduction of the iphone (and ipad). Now four years later they still have to come up with an viable combination of hard & software.
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07 Jun 2010   #16
Bootz

Vista Business x64
 
 

If Google and Apple are teh future, does that mean Big businesses are gonna stop using computers? lol. I dont know of a single fortune 500 company that doesnt run Windows.
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07 Jun 2010   #17
Bootz

Vista Business x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boris View Post
Lot of wishful thinking going on in this article. True MS is a giant, but slow to act and with little vision. There market share seems to hold them back. Just look at the markets Apple has opened up: ipod, iphone, ipad, itunes store, app store. MS is still windows and office only, only reacting to changes in the market at the moment.

I still remember the way MS responded to the introduction of the iphone (and ipad). Now four years later they still have to come up with an viable combination of hard & software.
Ill put any of the top 5 windows phones up against an iphone anyday...

And given it runs Android, my HTC EVO will run circles around in iphone in every way.
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07 Jun 2010   #18
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

I think what people are also missing with Cloud Computing is Regulation.

They are already trying hard as they can to get the Internet fully Regulated.
This would only give them more reason to jam that foot further in the door.

I can't wait till someone says, "remember the days when we could do just about whatever we wanted on the Net?"

It will turn into, "I need to check the regulatory papers to make sure it's safe for me to post or say anything. I could be violating some pithy regluation, and could be held liable for helping someone fix their PC over the net."

If you really and truly think that is far fetched?

Go check out Labor laws in the personal home and what they are trying to do there.
Are you ready for that? Just wait.

Scenario 1: Some kid comes to mow your lawn, he runs himself over with the his lawn mower. You then find yourself in court with a million dollar lawsuit. Oh, yes, they are trying, it is coming.

The net will be regulated. Unless we all fight for it.
Scenario 1 will come true, unless we all fight for it. Or don't higher anyone to mow your lawn, or clean your house.
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07 Jun 2010   #19
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boris View Post
Lot of wishful thinking going on in this article. True MS is a giant, but slow to act and with little vision. There market share seems to hold them back. Just look at the markets Apple has opened up: ipod, iphone, ipad, itunes store, app store. MS is still windows and office only, only reacting to changes in the market at the moment.

I still remember the way MS responded to the introduction of the iphone (and ipad). Now four years later they still have to come up with an viable combination of hard & software.
they are all effectively the same market though arent they? they all lean towards the "kids" who want their music with then 24/7. Now i am one of those "kids" (im 22... but you know what I mean) but i will not buy anything from apple.

1. Its over priced
2. Itunes is such a badly written program, you can actually see it breaking your computer while its running.... ( i exxagerate of course, but only a little)

*braces himself for a pelting with Apples*

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by osholt View Post
This is why I'm saying personal cloud computing.

You get a copy of Windows Home Server and put it on a storage server PC (just a mid /low spec one) and access everything from YOUR cloud, no one else can use your cloud unless you let them.

It's kind of a best of both worlds; the files/pictures are stored both locally and on the cloud (cloud and local being the same thing).

Although this all relies on upload speeds getting much better or for SDSL to become cheap.

Oli
Oli what would be the point of that? you might as well just leave them where they are to be fair.... the only advantage i can see is that you can access the files from any computer, and Homegroup manages that quite comfortably. (yes i know Workgroups are a PITA but by the time we reach this point your talking about XP will have died a painful death I hope)

also upload speed wouldnt matter if it was all local as it would be LAN speeds, so at LEAST 10Mbps more likely 100/1000
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07 Jun 2010   #20
blackroseMD1

Windows 10 Tech Preview 9926 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post

1. Its over priced
2. Itunes is such a badly written program, you can actually see it breaking your computer while its running.... ( i exxagerate of course, suffice to say i don't like Itunes)

*braces himself for a pelting with Apples*
I agree. Having used both an ipod touch and a Zune HD, I would take the Zune HD any day of the week. The software is much more user friendly, and the hardware is actually worth what you pay for it, without any kind of "Apple logo tax".

To hell with Apple and their overcharging ways.
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