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Windows 7: Microsoft tweaks antipiracy tech for Windows 7

09 May 2009   #61
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

hahahhahaha... I love this sha-1 md5 discussion. It's priceless. The guys who's arguing it could be modified and return a similar hash is a little misinformed on how it works. Good luck on finding a collision that works out on 2 hash functions and is worth anything.... It wouldn't happen. You need to realize that finding a collision is significantly different than modifying code and creating something that will match a collision.


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10 May 2009   #62
Uber Philf

W7 RTM Ultimate x64
 
 

Is this 7106 an official release?

Enzo.
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10 May 2009   #63
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ENZO View Post
Is this 7106 an official release?

Enzo.
The present RC1 is the 7100 being the current public release. The 7106 is a stray number that's been tossed around simply being another build from the RC branch but not the officially Release Candidates now seen.
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10 May 2009   #64
xan K

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ENZO View Post
Is this 7106 an official release?

Enzo.
I'll try to answer that in as many few words as possible:
no.
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10 May 2009   #65
Uber Philf

W7 RTM Ultimate x64
 
 

Hahah, thanks guys, didnt think so, i just stick to the official builds to avoid any problems, im on 7100, and ive had barley any problems

Enzo.
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10 May 2009   #66
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
This thread has probably run its course but the general consensus (and I suscribe to this as well) is that if the product was reasonably priced the whole issue of piracy would be really reduced.

If MS can't solve the piracy issue via "anti-crack" technology then perhaps MS could do something much more radical like deliberately INFECT non licensed machines with its own viruses -- that way it would have a FREE AV testing platform -- and would a user even think of logon on to Online Banking or whatever if they suspected the machine would be infected.

MS could even get away with it -- they could say "This wasn't a legally supplied copy of the our OS so we don't give ANY gurantees on how it will behave on other peoples computers".

The real issue is sensibly price the product -- at 300 USD for some people using a "Free copy" becomes tempting, at 90 USD much less so.

Also hobbling various versions so things like RDP and MMC don't work really is a stupid idea -- costs more in development, encourages Hackers to "Patch in" the missing features.

If I were CEO I'd make a "Bog standard" W7 edition with downloadable bits for the more business orientated parts of the system.

Actually often the "Business" idea is really quite stupid -- apart from specialized areas like people designing games / video etc a typical office (aka "business" user actually uses far LESS features of the OS than a normal HOME user.

In a typical office the apps used are probaby email, Internet, an office suite, and some internal applications like maybe accounting pacakages, SAP, ORACLE, etc plus of course network drive / file connectivity.

Rarely would the "normal" user need RDP or Multi-media apps or even enhanced security as this would probably be done by the corporate firewalls and servers anyway.

In the future I'd see a users desktop actually just being an "Image" loaded on to it by a corporate "Virtual Server" so again the whole idea of a "Business edition" seems entirely mis-placed.

So MS just price the OS correctly, and simplify it so a user doesn't need zillions of different editions to choose from.

It's much much easier to maintain as well (and hence combat Piracy).

Cheers
jimbo
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10 May 2009   #67
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ENZO View Post
Hahah, thanks guys, didnt think so, i just stick to the official builds to avoid any problems, im on 7100, and ive had barley any problems

Enzo.
The RCs are available until the end of June. Why gamble with anything else when the real deal is right there?!

Now as far as MS wanting to fight piracy the idea of activation was to make sure that people were using the genuine article and had paid for what? not which edition but the license to run the software! The same applies to any other retail software on the market.

They get their return profits for the developments they already invested in under Internationally accepted copyright laws. By making the RCs generally available MS allows everyone to try out, test, and evaluate the next version where the bug reports if any as well as suggestions, complaints are considered before the finish.

In other words MS is starting to consider what the average user not just corporate interests want to see in the new version.
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10 May 2009   #68
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
The RCs are available until the end of June. Why gamble with anything else when the real deal is right there?!


In other words MS is starting to consider what the average user not just corporate interests want to see in the new version.
Hi Nighthawk

I wish I could believe that - but since Home Premium is likely to be the version that will be shipped by "default" it should IMO include RDP which it won't have.

RDP will only be included in "Business" type editions -- a feature that in a typical office is rarely used outside the "IT sevice" area or Tech area.

Most home users these days have a network -- at least in the West how many homes do you actually know who only have ONE computer. Some have NONE I know but if they have ANY at all the number will certainly be > 1.

All sorts of Networking over the most basic file sharing kind are actually more important on Home computers than in a typical office -- the only network connectivity an office computer typically needs is File and Printer sharing, access to an Email server and possible some "database" applications such as Oracle.

Home users these days are much more adventurous such as wanting to stream Audio / video etc etc. Decent Network connectivity is a MUST.

Actually when I'm at home I stream AV Multi-media content to next door and vice versa. ("C'mon FBI we're bound to be doing something illegal sharing video).

I know MS has come out with that abomination of Home Server -- forget it.
Just make W7 fully functional and leave (the decent server) Server 2008 for people who really need it.


Cheers
jimbo
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10 May 2009   #69
turbomcp

seven
 
 

i heard that they gonna ship 7 with and indian guy build-in
and thats gona be the new anti piracy technique
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10 May 2009   #70
Uber Philf

W7 RTM Ultimate x64
 
 

hahaha "its fool proof" XD

Enzo.
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