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Windows 7: Windows 7 Starter Edition - Is It Really That Bad?

09 May 2009   #11
RST101

Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dinesh View Post
3 apps at a time? is MS kidding me?
Ultimate is the best.
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Ultimate is best if you need the extra services for work etc etc. Home premium is as good if not better for home use. I will be going for home premium as I have no need for the extra bloat ultimate offers.


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09 May 2009   #12
DrWho

Windows XP-Pro-SP3, Windows 7
 
 

Is this the one you're talking about?


Intel Atom is the brand name for a line of x86 and x86-64 CPUs (or microprocessors) from Intel, previously code-named Silverthorne and Diamondville processors, designed for a 45 nm CMOS process and intended for use in mobile internet devices (MIDs), smart phones and ultra-mobile PCs meant for portable and low-power applications. Ultimately, it ended up being a preferred processor for netbooks. Because they were targeted for low power consumption rather than performance, the Intel Atoms benchmark significantly lower than processors designed for laptop and desktop use. The rough benchmark used by Intel is that the Atoms have about "half the performance" of a Celeron 430 1.8 GHz processor

Sounds pretty lame to this old dog! I've spent the past 29 years trying to squeeze every last ounce of performance out of every computer I work on.

I think I could get more performance out of my old C-64 than that Atom and Mini win-7.

It sure doesn't sound like a top-seller to me.

Fear not.....before the ink is dry on the full and final release of Win-7, it will be available for FREE, all over the internet. XP is, Vista Ultimate 64 is, and so forth. Sorry B.G., but that's just life in the fast lane.

The Atom may be just fine for a programmable refrigerator, Microwave Oven or a Mr. Coffee, but I sure as heck don't want one in my personal computer.

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09 May 2009   #13
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

While I would never (and COULD never) use that OS with that limit, there are some that would.

What you guys are missing is the old market. Older people (like my parents) who only do a few things at a time on a computer, like check email, and go on the web. That's only two apps..... While people like us (almost by definition) and younger people (me), could never live with that, there are plenty that could.

~Lordbob
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09 May 2009   #14
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there

Oh well just keep XP or even a Linux distro on it.

Actually a 1GB RAM netbook can run the RC quite nicely -- can even play a DVD OK as well (or a DVD ISO image since there's not usually a built in DVD device).

They are quite good for even running Office 2007 as well.

The 3 application idea is just crazyness.

I'll bet the CEO that thought of that one had just been using some of this.


Cheers
jimbo


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10 May 2009   #15
raj11650

win 7 build 7600.16385 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
lol, no way man! I don't mean to sound rude, but that atom is definitely not going to grab those markets. Those markets are heavly owned by ARM processors and there is no way they are going to get in on that market without a humongous price drop of the atom processor! When the atom starts selling for a few dollars then they might get in, but until then they have no chance...
but intel atom processors can run Windows 7 smoothl and Arm processors cant!!! atom processors will overtake arm in future and its nice to know windows 7 works great in intel atom processors!!!
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10 May 2009   #16
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by raj1402 View Post
but intel atom processors can run Windows 7 smoothl and Arm processors cant!!! atom processors will overtake arm in future and its nice to know windows 7 works great in intel atom processors!!!
Hah, actually, that's not entirely true, but I'm not talking about an arm processor running windows 7 I'm talking about atom processors not entering into the small electronic market. right now arm processors own 98% of the cell phone market and 3/4 of the 32 bit market is ARM processors. This is because an ARM processor in a phone, or MP3 player etc is all you need. You don't need a full blown atom processor which is 20x the price for small electronics which just decode mp3, or just deal with the temperature in your house, or your remote control etc etc etc...
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11 May 2009   #17
Dragor1

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) dual boot with Fedora KDE
 
 

Point taken, fakeasdf!

Well, I went a little too overboard when I said MP3/MP4 players and DVD players!

The Atom is great, I think, because it seems to offer huge computational power in an unusually small package.

While it may not replace ARM everywhere, Mobile phones (high end), PDAs, Windows Mobiles could actually use Atom for a phenomenal speed boost.

Having said that, I really have no idea of the computational power and/or the power usage of ARM processors, and I also totally agree with you that the Atom's just too expensive at this point of time.

But, as I originally stated, Atom is the future and not the present!

Cheers!
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11 May 2009   #18
JerzeyLegend

Windows 7 Build 7277
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
While I would never (and COULD never) use that OS with that limit, there are some that would.

What you guys are missing is the old market. Older people (like my parents) who only do a few things at a time on a computer, like check email, and go on the web. That's only two apps..... While people like us (almost by definition) and younger people (me), could never live with that, there are plenty that could.

~Lordbob
Yes. I think they are missing an entire market all together. The entire population of PC users are not power users.

What about your kid? Does MySpace need three applications? 1.) Firefox. 2.) Multi-messenger 3.) iTunes. Looks like everything a kid does.

What about grandma? 1.) Email application or email on the browser. 2.) Microsoft Office 2007. 3.) ??? (Don't really need that one do they?)

How about schools? Cheap licensing (maybe even free) means school can afford to upgrade. 1.) Microsoft Office 2.) Internet Browser 3.) Possibly Windows Media Player (if it applies to the task at hand)

I am only using three programs right now. 1.) Firefox 2.) iTunes 3.) Thunderbird. Oh wait 4.) Windows Fax and Scan (however this is a system utility that can be run without the limit).

I don't think Starter Edition would be that bad. It will come OEM anyway. I think if Windows Starter Edition was free, it would be a hit. A legal free Windows OS. That would gain Microsoft some good karma. I only use Vista/Seven Ultimate because I like the way it sounds. Makes me feel more secure, although the differences between Ultimate and Home Premium aren't that much. Home Premium just sounds like something I would put on a HTPC.



EDIT: Atom coupled with NVidia ION graphics are the future. Check out the Acer AspireRevo. http://hothardware.com/Articles/Acer...NVIDIA-Ion-PC/ I'm thinking about waiting for this to make a CarPC.
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11 May 2009   #19
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JerzeyLegend View Post
Yes. I think they are missing an entire market all together. The entire population of PC users are not power users.

What about your kid? Does MySpace need three applications? 1.) Firefox. 2.) Multi-messenger 3.) iTunes. Looks like everything a kid does.

What about grandma? 1.) Email application or email on the browser. 2.) Microsoft Office 2007. 3.) ??? (Don't really need that one do they?)

How about schools? Cheap licensing (maybe even free) means school can afford to upgrade. 1.) Microsoft Office 2.) Internet Browser 3.) Possibly Windows Media Player (if it applies to the task at hand)

I am only using three programs right now. 1.) Firefox 2.) iTunes 3.) Thunderbird. Oh wait 4.) Windows Fax and Scan (however this is a system utility that can be run without the limit).

I don't think Starter Edition would be that bad. It will come OEM anyway. I think if Windows Starter Edition was free, it would be a hit. A legal free Windows OS. That would gain Microsoft some good karma. I only use Vista/Seven Ultimate because I like the way it sounds. Makes me feel more secure, although the differences between Ultimate and Home Premium aren't that much. Home Premium just sounds like something I would put on a HTPC.



EDIT: Atom coupled with NVidia ION graphics are the future. Check out the Acer AspireRevo. Acer Aspire Revo SFF NVIDIA Ion PC - HotHardware I'm thinking about waiting for this to make a CarPC.
Exactly. Thanks for embellishing and backing me up. Have some rep.

~Lordbob
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12 May 2009   #20
LarryS

Windows 7 Build 7229 x64
 
 
Too basic

I installed the Starter Edition today on an Dell D630 laptop. Although I can see how for a low end netbook type device this may be useful, it was just too basic for my liking. One of the 1st things I do when I setup a new system is right-click the desktop and pick "personalize" in order to add the "my computer" icon and tweek the theme. I was surprised to find the entire "personalize" menu option missing.
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