Finland first country to make broadband a 'legal right'

Topi said:

Thank you, I know the purpose of this section, as I have read it some time before I registered.
But may I ask what made you think I didn't know the purpose of this section? I don't ask this any bad meaning way, I ask this because my English isn't perfect so my writing or choice of words may not be correct and one of the reasons why I registered was to learn conversations in English.

Once again, thanks for the warm welcome, people here seems to be a lot more willing to help and talk to others than in Finnish IT forums.

And if and when I speak Finnish I'll add the translations as good as I can, and if I forget it it's not done intentionally and I will add the translation right away if I notice it or somebody mentions about it.
PS. If my writing is confusing, mention about it and I'll try to clarify it the best way I can.:)

I would say you did a great job writing this in English. Not to worry we are all here to help and if we feel something did not get translated correctly we will ask questions. We are glad to have you here.

Topi said:

Joan Archer said:

Welcome to the forum Topi, not sure if you have this sections purpose correct in your mind but it's for announcing articles that are about the IT world like what's new in the world of Microsoft and Internet Explorer or other news about operating systems or programs for computers.

Hope you enjoy being with us, there are lots of people who are always willing to help if you have any problems and maybe you can help as well, you've also found a fellow countryman who can talk to you in your own language, always remembering to translate it into English when posting.

Again welcome to our family.

Thank you, I know the purpose of this section, as I have read it some time before I registered.
But may I ask what made you think I didn't know the purpose of this section? I don't ask this any bad meaning way, I ask this because my English isn't perfect so my writing or choice of words may not be correct and one of the reasons why I registered was to learn conversations in English.

Once again, thanks for the warm welcome, people here seems to be a lot more willing to help and talk to others than in Finnish IT forums.

And if and when I speak Finnish I'll add the translations as good as I can, and if I forget it it's not done intentionally and I will add the translation right away if I notice it or somebody mentions about it.
PS. If my writing is confusing, mention about it and I'll try to clarify it the best way I can.:)

Sorry about that, you write very well but I think what made me ask the question was when you answered Kari and made the remark, "Oh, I thought it had something to do with the new law, because it was posted to "Current News" -section."

Once again Welcome to the forum and I think your English is better than some English

BCXtreme said:

... I'd recommend that maybe we prohibit further posting of news involving technology laws/policy, and return this section of the forum to its original purpose of discussing news about technology itself.

You can not be serious?

You are saying that a country adding internet access to citizens civil rights is OT for a news section on a computer / OS forums?

Could you please post a list of topics you accept? In this section, we've had lively discussions about piracy, connection speeds, online criminality, Bill Gates & Steven Jobbs and other IT personalities, laws governing internet, a bill introduced by your American democrats about Internet sales tax, planned British broadband tax etc. Here are also several threads with absolutely no connection to computing and IT.

You recommending censorship is not a surprise to me, after reading how you are against a government's work for equality. I, on the other hand, would still like to read news about everything and anything connected to computing, Internet and IT.

Sincerely, Kari

Kari said:

BCXtreme said:

... I'd recommend that maybe we prohibit further posting of news involving technology laws/policy, and return this section of the forum to its original purpose of discussing news about technology itself.

You can not be serious?

You are saying that a country adding internet access to citizens civil rights is OT for a news section on a computer / OS forums?

Could you please post a list of topics you accept? In this section, we've had lively discussions about piracy, connection speeds, online criminality, Bill Gates & Steven Jobbs and other IT personalities, laws governing internet, a bill introduced by your American democrats about Internet sales tax, planned British broadband tax etc. Here are also several threads with absolutely no connection to computing and IT.

You recommending censorship is not a surprise to me, after reading how you are against a government's work for equality. I, on the other hand, would still like to read news about everything and anything connected to computing, Internet and IT.

Sincerely, Kari

+++1 Kari!

Kari said:

BCXtreme said:

... I'd recommend that maybe we prohibit further posting of news involving technology laws/policy, and return this section of the forum to its original purpose of discussing news about technology itself.

You can not be serious?

You are saying that a country adding internet access to citizens civil rights is OT for a news section on a computer / OS forums?

Could you please post a list of topics you accept? In this section, we've had lively discussions about piracy, connection speeds, online criminality, Bill Gates & Steven Jobbs and other IT personalities, laws governing internet, a bill introduced by your American democrats about Internet sales tax, planned British broadband tax etc. Here are also several threads with absolutely no connection to computing and IT.

You recommending censorship is not a surprise to me, after reading how you are against a government's work for equality. I, on the other hand, would still like to read news about everything and anything connected to computing, Internet and IT.

Sincerely, Kari

Agreed.... the last time I checked, broadband had something to do with computing...... even in Finland.

TimStitt said:

Agreed.... the last time I checked, broadband had something to do with computing...... even in Finland.

:) Agreed here too!

Kari said:

BCXtreme said:

... I'd recommend that maybe we prohibit further posting of news involving technology laws/policy, and return this section of the forum to its original purpose of discussing news about technology itself.

You can not be serious?

You are saying that a country adding internet access to citizens civil rights is OT for a news section on a computer / OS forums?

I didn't say it was off-topic. I said it's impossible to discuss this subject without breaking General Rule #4. Your statement wholeheartedly supporting this policy is as political as my statement wholeheartedly opposing it. You can't be serious if you actually believe only those who disagree with you are being politically-minded, so I'm sure that's not what you're trying to say.

Kari said:

Could you please post a list of topics you accept? In this section, we've had lively discussions about piracy, connection speeds, online criminality, Bill Gates & Steven Jobbs and other IT personalities, laws governing internet, a bill introduced by your American democrats about Internet sales tax, planned British broadband tax etc. Here are also several threads with absolutely no connection to computing and IT.

The latter three of that list of yours are perfect examples of what I see as purely political topics. None of those topics can be discussed in an apolitical fashion, because politics is at their very core.

Kari said:

You recommending censorship is not a surprise to me, after reading how you are against a government's work for equality. I, on the other hand, would still like to read news about everything and anything connected to computing, Internet and IT.

I have to admit, with all due respect, I am not in the least surprised by your accusations. But if banning politically-controversial articles is "censorship", aren't most if not all of the official forum rules censorship as well, especially rule #4?

As soon as I'm able to confirm with an SF staff member that I will not be breaking any rules (better safe than sorry), I would be delighted to continue the original debate, starting by addressing your comment referring to this new law as "working for equality."