Possible Release Date ?

They must know that not having all their ducks in a row at the release of seven would be devastating to their bottom line over the long haul. There will be enough complaining from the folks moving from XP to Seven without having stuff broken or missing. I'm sure they don't want to go through that again.

Gary

johngalt said:

The problem with this is that a lot of people were going gaga over Longhorn - and then M$, for whatever reason, decided to cut out features that were most appreciate in Longhorn and deliver us Vista.

One of the foremost reasons people hate Vista. That and it wouldn't run on thier 386SX25 with 2mb Ram...

smarteyeball said:

One of the foremost reasons people hate Vista. That and it wouldn't run on thier 386SX25 with 2mb Ram...

you still running one...


but yes it is agreed...
they took things out broke a few things...
but 7 has to be eyecandy+speed...
thats [supposedly the no.1 complaint]
that and the ballmer scandal of lowering the requirements for intel....

Well, here is the thing - I always use the 'Show OS Boot information' setting in MSConfig - and Vista RTM it flew by, but on Vista SP1 it slowed down - tremendously. The OS itself was a lot faster after that part of the boot, including application timing and whatnot....

However, after I installed W7 as a second OS in a dual boot scenario, a curious thing happened - the OS Boot info screen for ***VISTA*** sped back up to (or even surpassing) the speed I encountered with the original Vista RTM.

Also, I'd like to make one comment - not all the FUD surrounding Vista was untrue - it is definitely a slower OS because it is more massive - but at least in Vista I can do things like kill and restart things like the VDDM and explorer.exe without having to reboot the OS - I mean, c'mon, I have to reboot XP if I switch from SLI to non SLI and vice versa!!!!

wow john that is a weird anomaly you got there....
maybe using w7 boot files???
and yes i know vista is not the angel we all know 7 is...lol
but they were too lenient on the vista specs...
i remember installing vista ultimate on my desktop
x3100 while yes it does employ the WDDM driver for aero i turned it off...

vista to me is tangled cables on the inside while in 7 they tidied it up on the inside (they indirectly said that the cleaned the kernel code...)

I think it has *everything* to using the W7 boot files....

And it is not just the specs (for the Works with Vista logo certification program) that hurt Vista - it also includes things like removing half of the features that made Longhorn fun to test, and selling an OS that they *knew* had issues - major issues - to the public. I swear I almost went back to RC 1 after I had been running RTM for about 2 months...until SP1 came out RTM was continually getting reinstalled to the tune to once every other month....

so then it is agreed that that at rtm vista was a half a**ed attempt to cut back on the features that RC1 had...