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Windows 7: Windows XP: Kill it, bin it, upgrade it

15 Jul 2010   #41
JonM33

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dhanushka83 View Post
When u played games in Windows XP and Windows 7 with 4 GB RAM what is the best and What can u get real performance ? Honestly tell me
Er, the word "gamer" doesn't give you a hint? DirectX 11 graphics? The best that Windows XP can do is DirectX 9. As a gamer, that is unacceptable.


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15 Jul 2010   #42
smsff7

Windows 7 Pro X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
Tell me, how is pinning any different to Quick Launch? the only difference is they spread across your taskbar.

However, once launched, they still take up the same amount of room on the Taskbar, using Quick Launch they take up double the space, as it makes a new Icon when you launch it
being spread across the taskbar is the biggest reason I hate it. I want everything in one spot so I can find it faster. Also smaller icons for a quick launch is also another reason I like it more
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15 Jul 2010   #43
AussieGuy92

 
 

some people like to hang on to the past they can use xp till the end but one day there will be no software made for xp and they will be forced to upgrade.
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15 Jul 2010   #44
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smsff7 View Post
Also smaller icons for a quick launch is also another reason I like it more
+1

When I started with Seven, I tried to replace QuickLaunch, in which I was used to in Vista, with different docks. The problem was icon size and the placement of the dock.

As the screenshot I posted here earlier shows, my current solution with QuickLaunch leaves me incredibly much space in my Taskbar. I need that space quite often.
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15 Jul 2010   #45
dhanushka83

Windows 7
 
 

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some people like to hang on to the past they can use xp till the end but one day there will be no software made for xp and they will be forced to upgrade.

yes I know that...World is Change...But Resources that used for it may be earn too difficult
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15 Jul 2010   #46
si8mon

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

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Update:
Just to clarify the above information, Windows XP downgrade rights will only be available throughout the Windows 7 lifecycle. Windows 7 will continue to sell in retails stores one fully year after the next release of Windows, and upto two full years preinstalled on PCs. For instance, if Windows 8 releases on January 1, 2012, Windows 7 downgrade rights to XP will officially retire on January 1, 2014.
Neowin.net - Microsoft extends Windows XP downgrade rights until 2020 [Update]

No wonder why, when I first saw this article I first thought it was a hoax.
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15 Jul 2010   #47
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigseb View Post
As a Linux user I admittedly may be just a little spoilt too. Plenty eye-candy, stable, no viruses and a ton of software.
Regardless of the name, or who created it, no OS is immune. Windows. OSX. Linux. BSD. It doesn't matter.

So you go right on believing that Linux has no viruses. Call me when you need a data recovery specialist.
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15 Jul 2010   #48
bigseb

Windows 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigseb View Post
As a Linux user I admittedly may be just a little spoilt too. Plenty eye-candy, stable, no viruses and a ton of software.
Regardless of the name, or who created it, no OS is immune. Windows. OSX. Linux. BSD. It doesn't matter.

So you go right on believing that Linux has no viruses. Call me when you need a data recovery specialist.
Actually the Linux kernel is quite resistant to viruses. Add to that the fact that the repositories are watched quite diligently then yeah it makes for a much safer OS. Way safer than Windows definitely.

Beyond that, if you go visiting dodgy sites and downloading all kinds of garbage then its only a matter of time til something goes wrong...
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15 Jul 2010   #49
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigseb View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigseb View Post
As a Linux user I admittedly may be just a little spoilt too. Plenty eye-candy, stable, no viruses and a ton of software.
Regardless of the name, or who created it, no OS is immune. Windows. OSX. Linux. BSD. It doesn't matter.

So you go right on believing that Linux has no viruses. Call me when you need a data recovery specialist.
Actually the Linux kernel is quite resistant to viruses. Add to that the fact that the repositories are watched quite diligently then yeah it makes for a much safer OS. Way safer than Windows definitely.

Beyond that, if you go visiting dodgy sites and downloading all kinds of garbage then its only a matter of time til something goes wrong...
"Resistant" does not mean "Immune".

And it is a common misconception that Windows is not a secure operating system. As I said, all operating systems are equally prone to virus attacks - it's simply a matter of how talented the virus creator is.

Windows is just a larger target, which makes it easier to hit, which is why many believe it to be insecure.

I do agree with you about visiting dodgy sites. It actually scary how many computers go through my workshop on an almost daily basis and the client denies all knowledge of how the virus got on the system, but then in the process of rescuing their data, glimpses of the internet history makes my blood run cold...
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15 Jul 2010   #50
dood

Win7/XP
 
 

Here are my thoughts...

Bottom line is this..
I run APPLICATIONS...NOT OS's.

All the buzz about 7..xp..yadda..yadda...WHO CARES.
Personally..all I need is a stable kernal and the ability add what I want.
If 'windows kernel' was available on a floppy disk..I'd buy that and build the rest myself.
(Of course I'll also accept basic I/O capabilites)

The OS should only be there for presentation and hardware management. Beyond that? STFU, get out of the way..and let me run my APPLICATIONS.
I DONT CARE about your 'add-ons' (Add-ons amount to anything beyond a presentation manager and I/O control)

Giving 'all praise' to an OS is like worshiping a blank piece of paper. It should be there only to allow you to create and work on top of it. The interesting things should be whats written on the paper. (And I expect the paper to 'just work'..not tear itself up the moment a bad packet flys by the ether)

As far as 7 goes?
Its a pig. Its bloated junk if I had to be honest about it. (And I know many agree)
The only thing 'saving it' is the fact that commodity computers are more powerful than the space shuttle and can run the dang thing.
Its the APPLICATIONS that should be the focus of hardware/resource upgrades..not the freakin OS.

If it wasnt for the fact that a certain IVO character wrote a classic menu for 7, it would barely be used.
I absolutely hate the new menu. Its dumb(sorted backwards), includes dumbazz 'links'/redirects to legacy directories(for which there was no sane reason to 'redesign'), and introduces the stoopidest thing I've ever seen: 'Libraries'. Sure..lets obscure the actual file locations even further with more abitrary links! Ya! Thats the ticket! If I want 'links'..I'll make me own!
MS promotes 'look and feel', the 'experience' and boot times.
Look and feel.. Who cares. I 'look' only when I'm starting my apps. And 'feel' your taking up resources that my apps should be using.
'Experience'.. I 'experience' on the way to load my apps. And I get a lil bit more 'experience' when I had to config the OS's odbc connectors.
Boot time? Gee. 30 seconds faster. Hey moron. Its just a service load order. You 'think' your completely up. Your not. Services are still firing after you login. Its mostly just an 'illusion'. Its just a more efficient boot 'ORDER' rather than anything ground breaking. (No..I dont use prefetch...and shut down most services using only the ones i 'need'.)

Bahhh..You get the idea.

Yet the main reason I've gone to 7 is the ability to employ the 8GB of physical memory I have in my main rig.
Beyond that? I'm not terribily impressed. Actually..with all the 'changes', I just use the 'godmode' link to access all the settings since MS has everything spread around so as to be 'pretty'. (I swear the layout changes must have been outsourced to india or developed 'by committee'..in india )
Once I have my prefs done...I'm done. I forget about the OS..and...yup..use my APPS.

I have 7 on few other machines. But XP is still utilized and kicking. I see no reason to go to 7 on ANY of the machines running XP. There is no compelling 'need'.

Hate me..I dont care.
I really have no 'opinion' on 7 'features'...unless of course they really suck or are beyond convoluted or is just useless(Most thinks about windows fit these descriptions.).
But as I stated. I just want a stable environment with a simple/fast front en UI.
Beyond that? Its just baggage.
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