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Windows 7: Pirated Windows 7 Builds Botnet with Trojan

13 May 2009   #21
Scooter70

Windows7 7201
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero View Post
At this point, stealing Win7 is like trying to do a dine-and-dash in a soup kitchen.

Wat?
It's more like sneaking in the back door and grabbing a bowl before they're open for business. OF course you can get it free if you wait in line but you're hungry now and someone left the door open.


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13 May 2009   #22
Plantje

Windows 7 32 bit both Ultimate and Home Premium
 
 

Pretty simple: the version on torrent sites was available before the 5th of May. And I needed it before the 5th of May
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13 May 2009   #23
win7

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero View Post
At this point, stealing Win7 is like trying to do a dine-and-dash in a soup kitchen.

Wat?
Its not that these people want to steal it, they want to infect people with malware etc.. and simply using windows 7 as bait.

Probably trying to phish firefox and ie passwords for paypal and similar.
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13 May 2009   #24
damoh

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Im sooo glad i checked my hash's, once realized they were diff, download from MS and wiped that bad boy clean. No probs. Just goes to show.
Not worth the risk for a couple hours download, given that 99% of people have sensitive data on there computers. 2 hours of your life is worth it. and stops the ' holy sh** whats happened. If only i reinstalled proper' scenario
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13 May 2009   #25
win7

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

Any new/popular/wanted software is at high risk of this type of thing, it happens a lot these days and most people i doubt even realise until there paypal accounts are emptied or purchases of digital goods start appearing on their CC bills.

Some people might call it karma for using warez/torrent sites.
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13 May 2009   #26
mxosder16

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Quote:
Some people might call it karma for using warez/torrent sites.
i call it idiocy
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13 May 2009   #27
jfar

Vista Ult64, Win7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all

Why don't people EVER give PROPER info for this stuff

1) If MS knows that these are "Infected" - give the hashes for the "Infected" builds -- we've all got the hashes for the Official builds so it's easy to check.

2) Say WHAT BUILDS are infected. Microsoft has been burying its head like an Osterich in the sand even refusing to ACKNOWLEGE any builds other than the BETA 7000 and the official 7100 EVEN EXIST.

3) If this stuff has a botnet / trojan in it publish a method of detection -- some people will ALWAYS use stuff from "dubious" sources -- and in doing so can transmit stuff to software obtained Legitimately.
By just saying certain downloads might contain a Botnet etc without publishing methods of detection etc is just being PLAIN IRRESPONSIBLE.

Information such as saying "XXXX" might contain a virus / malware etc doesn't actually help ANYBODY and merely re-inforces the perception that they are just scaremongering.

If your build matches the Official one it WON'T contain anything it shouldn't.

Of course with the Official RC being easily (and quickly) available it really doesn't make any sense to download it from a torrent -- but that is a TOTALLY different issue.

Cheers
jimbo
Good post and I agree.
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13 May 2009   #28
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all

Why don't people EVER give PROPER info for this stuff

1) If MS knows that these are "Infected" - give the hashes for the "Infected" builds -- we've all got the hashes for the Official builds so it's easy to check.

2) Say WHAT BUILDS are infected. Microsoft has been burying its head like an Osterich in the sand even refusing to ACKNOWLEGE any builds other than the BETA 7000 and the official 7100 EVEN EXIST.

3) If this stuff has a botnet / trojan in it publish a method of detection -- some people will ALWAYS use stuff from "dubious" sources -- and in doing so can transmit stuff to software obtained Legitimately.
By just saying certain downloads might contain a Botnet etc without publishing methods of detection etc is just being PLAIN IRRESPONSIBLE.

Information such as saying "XXXX" might contain a virus / malware etc doesn't actually help ANYBODY and merely re-inforces the perception that they are just scaremongering.

If your build matches the Official one it WON'T contain anything it shouldn't.

Of course with the Official RC being easily (and quickly) available it really doesn't make any sense to download it from a torrent -- but that is a TOTALLY different issue.

Cheers
jimbo
Well said. Again, I request that if interim builds are released, that the admins stick a Hash Thread in the sticky session that is read only. This thread will track known good hashes for each build released. Someone with access to the "real interim build" and is known to the admins as trustworthy, can verify the hashes. These trusted folks are doing nothing wrong by providing a hash value, so they are not in danger of violating their NDA. Provide both MD5 and SHA-1, so that we can compare both. (I'm cool with just the SHA-1, but to help the truly paranoid if both match, it is impossible that the files are different).

I will probably stick with the RC at this point, but for the others that need the latest and greatest, this website can provide some security and keep the malware out.

PhreePhly
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13 May 2009   #29
kpo6969

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all

Why don't people EVER give PROPER info for this stuff

1) If MS knows that these are "Infected" - give the hashes for the "Infected" builds -- we've all got the hashes for the Official builds so it's easy to check.

2) Say WHAT BUILDS are infected. Microsoft has been burying its head like an Osterich in the sand even refusing to ACKNOWLEGE any builds other than the BETA 7000 and the official 7100 EVEN EXIST.

3) If this stuff has a botnet / trojan in it publish a method of detection -- some people will ALWAYS use stuff from "dubious" sources -- and in doing so can transmit stuff to software obtained Legitimately.
By just saying certain downloads might contain a Botnet etc without publishing methods of detection etc is just being PLAIN IRRESPONSIBLE.

Information such as saying "XXXX" might contain a virus / malware etc doesn't actually help ANYBODY and merely re-inforces the perception that they are just scaremongering.

If your build matches the Official one it WON'T contain anything it shouldn't.

Of course with the Official RC being easily (and quickly) available it really doesn't make any sense to download it from a torrent -- but that is a TOTALLY different issue.

Cheers
jimbo
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jfar View Post
Good post and I agree.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PhreePhly View Post
Well said. Again, I request that if interim builds are released, that the admins stick a Hash Thread in the sticky session that is read only. This thread will track known good hashes for each build released. Someone with access to the "real interim build" and is known to the admins as trustworthy, can verify the hashes. These trusted folks are doing nothing wrong by providing a hash value, so they are not in danger of violating their NDA. Provide both MD5 and SHA-1, so that we can compare both. (I'm cool with just the SHA-1, but to help the truly paranoid if both match, it is impossible that the files are different).

I will probably stick with the RC at this point, but for the others that need the latest and greatest, this website can provide some security and keep the malware out.

PhreePhly
Agree 100%..
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13 May 2009   #30
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all

I've posted this before -- but as a reminder

If you get really desperate try this NEW version of W7 -- you don't need ANY AV software either or even bother with such mundane things like keeping Online Bank passwords safe -- this version will store this stuff everywhere on the Internet so you will always be able to retrieve your data from any computer on the planet at any time -- The worlds FIRST UNIVERSAL OS.

Enjoy

Cheers
jimbo


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