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Windows 7: Dell ships motherboard with malicious code

22 Jul 2010   #31
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

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In my opinion, HP only sells so many computers because they are cheaper than anyone else.
I will only purchase Dell or HP computers for my company, and Dell is always about 5-10% cheaper, at least on the business side.
I agree, seems to me that Dell is cheaper. One reason that Dell has been where I have purchased laptops is I got them at a cheaper price than I would have with HP.


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22 Jul 2010   #32
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

Dell business computers might be cheaper. Actually, the Vostro line is probably the cheapest computers they sell. When it comes to store bought and home computers, HP tends to be cheaper for the same or slightly better specs. I know every HP I see in a store around here usually has the cheapest price tag.
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22 Jul 2010   #33
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I could agree with that part too. My wife wanted a laptop a year ago, and we got a nice HP at MicroCenter that was cheaper than a similiar Dell.
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22 Jul 2010   #34
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 View Post
Dell business computers might be cheaper. Actually, the Vostro line is probably the cheapest computers they sell. When it comes to store bought and home computers, HP tends to be cheaper for the same or slightly better specs. I know every HP I see in a store around here usually has the cheapest price tag.
Could be true. I always order straight from Dell rather than buying at the store.
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22 Jul 2010   #35
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

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Could be true. I always order straight from Dell rather than buying at the store.
Same here. Like I mentioned earlier, we always get business computer from them to avoid bloatware.
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22 Jul 2010   #36
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

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Could be true. I always order straight from Dell rather than buying at the store.
Same here. Like I mentioned earlier, we always get business computer from them to avoid bloatware.
Yeah I learned that too after the first laptop I bought from them. It had gotten ridiculous. I doubt it's any better now. Prob worse...
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22 Jul 2010   #37
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Win7User512 View Post
Could be true. I always order straight from Dell rather than buying at the store.
Same here. Like I mentioned earlier, we always get business computer from them to avoid bloatware.
Yeah I learned that too after the first laptop I bought from them. It had gotten ridiculous. I doubt it's any better now. Prob worse...
They don't have too much trial-ware from what I've seen, but they do take the liberty of installing a lot stuff without giving you many options.
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22 Jul 2010   #38
joel406

Windows 7 Ultimate x64/x86 Windows 7 Pro x64/x86 Windows 7 Home Premium x64/x86
 
 

Never ever buy mass produced systems.

Hand pick your own hardware and software and your PC will run flawlessly for years. Even if operated by a 6 year old.

As far as servers and laptops go. Again... build my own servers.

Laptops are Toshiba. my A305 has performed miracles. For a C2D machine its as fast as my C2Q.

The OS and softwares and my laptop are custom but as far as hardware goes I just upgraded it to 4 gigs of RAM and stoped.

Moral of the story is that if your serious about your "personal" system you build your own.

Mass production is for noobs.
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23 Jul 2010   #39
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Never ever buy mass produced systems.
I've purchased 2 home computers from Dell over the years and they are still going strong. In fact, I even sold one of them to a coworker who is still using it. The first model had a power supply go bad. I got a new one from Dell for less than $40. Everything else solid. 1st computer is 7 years old and second computer is 5 years old.

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Hand pick your own hardware and software and your PC will run flawlessly for years. Even if operated by a 6 year old.
I've built around 10-15 computers for home use over the years. While they contain exactly what I want, I wouldn't say any of them were remarkably more durable than my two purchased Dell's. I've had power supplies, mobos and hard drives go bad in some of them.

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Moral of the story is that if your serious about your "personal" system you build your own.
If you enjoy building your computer and making it unique...by all means build it. But to say that you cannot be happy with a "personal" system that was purchased...I don't agree with.
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23 Jul 2010   #40
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I would never suggest that a home-built system was more reliable than an OEM system, I also wouldn't say they are less reliable. A component can fail just as easy on both. You might be able to make the argument that it would be easier to replace on the home-built one, especially as the systems age, but I digress.

I will say that I'd be a lot less likely to be happy with an OEM system. Despite the fact you can customize many aspects of a Dell tower, for example, you'll never even approach the levels of customizations you have with a home-built one. The brand/cooler for a video card, the number of SATA ports included, the brand of optical drive, design, brand, layout of the case....all are examples of things you can't control with an OEM system. I've been building my own PCs for 15 years now, and don't ever plan to change that. I can usually come close or beat the price of the OEM systems as well.
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