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Windows 7: New build - your advice appreciated

13 Nov 2010   #11
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Very nice build. Everything looks great.

Except for a couple of things.

1) Change the CPU cooler, the new 'must-buy' CPU cooler in town, is without a doubt the Thermaltake Frío, yes... Thermaltake.

Review: Thermaltake Frio CPU Cooler Review | bit-tech.net

2) No need for 8GB RAM, anything above 4GB is overkill (unless you're on a LGA-1366 platform).

3) Be weary of multi-GPU solutions. Always go for a single powerful GPU. I'd go for a Radeon HD 6870 or HD 5870 on the AMD side, and on the NVIDIA side, a GTX 470 (or a heavily OC'ed GTX 460 1GB).


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13 Nov 2010   #12
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Final question: Answer yes, this is how I'm configured only with a SSD for W7, 1TB with XP Pro 32. I'm not in Crysis mode but I see nothing with your build components that will keep you from top level performance and the potential to build from there is very great. Take tons of pictures all through your build and post them when your done. Did you have a chance to check the MSI board out? The ability to not SLI the same GPU makes it a winner in my mind and it OC's with ease plus it's all USB3 & Sata 6gb ready with no legacy on the board.
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13 Nov 2010   #13
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Also...if you aren't planning to overclock there probably isn't a "need" for an aftermarket CPU cooler. Heck, I run my Intel Q9550 with the retail cooler even with a small overclock as my temperatures are no problem whatsoever. I run in the low 30's at idle and top out around 55 under full load. This is well within acceptable for my CPU.

I think the prior poster might have meant to go with the 4GB of RAM at 1333mhz and you will be really happy. I'm 99.9% positive that with just about any video game....you are not going to see any performance gain going with 8GB of RAM.

Hi there
You only really need the 8GB RAM if you are running loads of concurrent Virtual Machines -- for gaming the 4GB will be more than adequate as the previous posters have said.

If Money is burning a hole in your pocket go for REALLY FAST DISKS or even SSD's -- this WILL improve performance no end even on MODEST machines.

I've seen people buy 8GB RAM with QUAD CPU's and then complain about inadequate performance -- because they are still using slow IDE 5400 RPM Disk drives.

People always seem to UNDERSTIMATE the bottlenecks caused by SLOW DISKS.

Putting in faster Disks is the easiest and surest way of dramatically improving performance on nearly ANY machine.

Most user applications INCLUDING GAMING are quite considerably I/O bound -- very few of us run applications that require even 30% of the power of typical CPU's available these days -- in any case if you are a gamer a lot of the intensive graphic processing is done in the GPU in any case.

Upgrade your Disks -- you'll be amazed at the performance improvement.

Cheers
jimbo
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13 Nov 2010   #14
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Have a look at the Coolermaster Hyper 212 + for around $30US. Great cooler for the cost. See some comparisons here (Including the Frio mentioned above).

Overclocking On Air: 10 LGA 1156-Compatible Performance Coolers : Lynnfield Can Take The Heat, But Should It?

A Guy
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14 Nov 2010   #15
Odd Job

Windows 7 professional X 64
 
 

Hmmm, there seems to be a big difference of opinion between the experts as to whether I need 4 or 8 Gb of memory.

The only memory intensive applications I will be running are games. The rest of the time the computer will be used for surfing, Word processing, and the like. I also use occasionally photoshop to edit my photos and a cad program for making architectural drawings. Does this info help.
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14 Nov 2010   #16
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Odd Job View Post
Hmmm, there seems to be a big difference of opinion between the experts as to whether I need 4 or 8 Gb of memory.

The only memory intensive applications I will be running are games. The rest of the time the computer will be used for surfing, Word processing, and the like. I also use occasionally photoshop to edit my photos and a cad program for making architectural drawings. Does this info help.
I'm no expert, but I believe Photoshop is memory intensive, and I know CAD is. That said, if the cost now is an issue, you can always add more Ram later. A Guy
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14 Nov 2010   #17
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

I would agree that 8gig's is a luxury and may have little impact on surfing performance and such. I think going with 4gig's in 2 slots and then if desired later you can fill the balance is a great idea. Also as mentioned before, the money saved may get you closer to a SSD for the OS and Apps. and that will greatly up performance. I like the Crucial Real SSD 64 - Sata III for just this reason and it's available here for around $135.00
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14 Nov 2010   #18
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Odd Job View Post
Hmmm, there seems to be a big difference of opinion between the experts as to whether I need 4 or 8 Gb of memory.

The only memory intensive applications I will be running are games. The rest of the time the computer will be used for surfing, Word processing, and the like. I also use occasionally photoshop to edit my photos and a cad program for making architectural drawings. Does this info help.
I've said it numerous times...based on gaming and such you don't need more than 4GB of RAM. The people who are recommending that you go with 8GB of RAM are recommending this based on the fact that 64-bit computing is becoming more the norm and typically with 64-bit systems and large intensive apps you will need more RAM for maximum performance. So, they go with the recommendation to help you "future proof".

However, as is often is the case with RAM...more does not mean drastically better performance. After 4GB, your gain from more RAM is often unnoticeable...unless you are running virtual machines or memory intensive applications. Some will discuss Photoshop using tons of RAM...but you have to be editing a very complex image and such to really require it. If you are just editing pictures, or making signature blocks and such for forum sites....it's just not required.
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14 Nov 2010   #19
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

The other pervurse benefit of this is you only have to test and rely on two sticks performing as a pair and not four stick playing nice all together. This I believe is my BSOD on occasional start up issue and the challenges of four much less six sticks of ram is just upping the mis-match potential. You also can opt for the higher performing ram !
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14 Nov 2010   #20
BugMeister

Windows10 Pro - 64Bit vs.10547
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Odd Job View Post
Hmmm, there seems to be a big difference of opinion between the experts as to whether I need 4 or 8 Gb of memory.

The only memory intensive applications I will be running are games. The rest of the time the computer will be used for surfing, Word processing, and the like. I also use occasionally photoshop to edit my photos and a cad program for making architectural drawings. Does this info help.
I'm no expert, but I believe Photoshop is memory intensive, and I know CAD is. That said, if the cost now is an issue, you can always add more Ram later. A Guy
I'll drink to that - I use Corel's Suite - the extra RAM is a real help..

PS - I've never had any probs with my twin 4890's in Crossfire - the emerging tech for the 5000/6000 series is gradually taking shape - I'm looking to getting a coupla 6870's to upgrade the GFX on my rig - but they're gonna be a tight squeeze in the 900/2
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