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Windows 7: editings "System" to show overclock

09 May 2011   #11
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
...but then again, our pc's seem to work differently - remember a coupla weeks ago, when shift-send-to moved files for me, but only copied for you?

my control panel/system page always shows 4.01 GHz when at rest, or under load.

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*edit* just for the hell of it, here's my bios settings: eist is set to 'auto' rather than 'disabled'

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Hehe..... EIST is still EIST, and your CPU, like mine, supports it

Anyway move it from "Auto" to Enabled and see what happens.

BTW here's mine....

editings "System" to show overclock-my-eist-setting.jpg




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09 May 2011   #12
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

i've only got 'auto' and 'disabled' - no 'enabled' option in my bios. so i assume 'auto' means 'enabled'

editings "System" to show overclock-auto.jpg

i included cpu-z screenshots in my above post to show that my clockspeeds and voltages are being changed on-the-fly - if that's not eist, then what is it?

most odd


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09 May 2011   #13
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

OK, like you said, our systems are different. I'll also conceed that I'm not an "expert" here so I can't answer all the why's and how's. I just know from reading, and experience, how EIST is working on mine, and most other systems.

In short.... why is your OC speed showing in your Windows 7 properties page when EIST is enabled is one I can't answer.... yet.

BTW what power plan are you using?
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09 May 2011   #14
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

power plan?

er, balanced, but i may have tweaked it a long time ago...

editings "System" to show overclock-balan.png


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09 May 2011   #15
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

just for fun, i've just disabled eist in bios, rebooted and my system page still shows the overclock.

but then again, cpuz still shows the diferent speeds when 'idle' and 'under load' - the only difference is that the core vid voltage stays at 1.25V in both states. so it wasn't eist changing the clocks originally - it was windows?, but eist did change the volts...

odder and odder - now i'm really confused.

my bios is a beta 'evaluation' bios though - as the original vanilla bios was faulty and showed really weird temps, which made overclocking difficult to gauge. then the mobo manufacturer (abit) went out of business, and didn't release a proper replacement bios, so i've been using this beta for years now, with no apparent ill effects. it might be that causing the oddness... only thing that i can think of right now.
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09 May 2011   #16
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
my bios is a beta 'evaluation' bios though - as the original vanilla bios was faulty and showed really weird temps, which made overclocking difficult to gauge. then the mobo manufacturer (abit) went out of business, and didn't release a proper replacement bios, so i've been using this beta for years now, with no apparent ill effects. it might be that causing the oddness... only thing that i can think of right now.
That could explain a lot as EIST is controlled by the BIOS.

BTW We have the same power plan with regards to CPU throttling settings - 5% Min, 100% Max. Also CPU-Z is working like your - shows resting and load state as well as variable voltage rates. So yeah, could be a BIOS issue.
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09 May 2011   #17
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

OK here we go.....

Quote:
Integration

Standard integration procedures should be followed for installing all the various system hardware components. Once all the hardware components have been installed correctly (or if the system is already functional), take the following recommended steps:
  1. Download and run the latest BIOS update for your motherboard. Check with your motherboard manufacturer to ensure their latest BIOS contains support for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology.
  2. Ensure Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is enabled in your BIOS. For Intel desktop boards, the Intel SpeedStep Technology option is under the "Power" tab and labeled "EIST." Ensure it is set to "Enabled."
  3. Ensure your OS has support for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology. For Windows XP SP2 operating systems, install Windows XP SP2 if you haven’t already done so.
  4. Finally, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology must be turned on in the OS. Currently, for Windows XP SP2 operating systems, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology by default is off. To turn it on, do the following:
    1. Under "Control Panel," open "Power Options."
    2. Under the "Power Schemes" pull down menu, choose one of the following:
      1. To turn Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology on, select "Minimal Power Management" power scheme.
      2. To turn Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology off, select "Always On" power scheme.
Quote:
To verify that Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is enabled, do the following:
  1. Close all applications and ensure that Windows OS is in idle mode. Press Ctrl + Alt + Delete and select the "Performance" tab. Verify that CPU usage is 0.
  2. Right click "My Computer" and select, "Properties."
  3. Under the "General" tab, examine the installed processor and speed. If Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is enabled, two processor speeds will be listed. The first speed listed is the specified speed of the processor. The second speed is the current operating speed. The second speed will be less then the first speed. (See Figure 1.) This indicates that Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology has effectively lowered the processor voltage and core frequency, which can (depending on system usage and design) result in decreased average power consumption and decreased average heat production. If Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology is off, then both processor speeds will be equal. (See Figure 2.) If the processor is not in idle mode, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology can be enabled and both processors speeds can be equal. If this happens, try steps 1-3 again.
Source: Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology - How To Document

The article is a little dated but it basically explains my understanding of EIST

Why yours is different I don't know.
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09 May 2011   #18
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
<snip>

Why yours is different I don't know.
my machines take after their owner, and have always been different...i once caught an old laptop making toast!

seriously though, i've tweaked my pc to hell and beyond in a variety of ways - i just can't stop myself, nor always remember what i've done to it. i am semi-careful though, and make images pre-tweak, just in case of disasters.

i've been planning to do a clean install ever since sp1 came out - i wonder if it will continue to exhibit such anomalies after that?
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09 May 2011   #19
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
i wonder if it will continue to exhibit such anomalies after that?
I don't know.

Anyway I feel better knowing that EIST is working as advertised on my system.

Holla at cha later
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11 May 2011   #20
phyrexiancure

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My dell computer's bios does not give me access to power saving features, but appearently it has them since it will idle on cpu-z. So you guys dont no how to edit the registry that shows the overclock speed?
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