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Windows 7: Post Your Overclock!

28 Feb 2012   #1381
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

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Thanks for posting. I wish more people would do the same. I think I will find them very useful.
Absolutely!

That looks like a great resource, smarteye.

After my previous post I just couldn't resist the urge to tinker. (And if I fry this sucker my grades will truly suffer... )

Anyway, so far so good at 48 X 100. Temps went down a degree, too.


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29 Feb 2012   #1382
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

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For a small USB stick, there are no advantages formatting NTFS, and some drawbacks. Unless you need files over 4GB, there is really no reason to format NTFS. NTFS will also wear out the drive faster. A Guy
I never heard that one - that NTFS will wear a jump drive out faster than FAT.

There is also exFAT, which can have cluster sizes up to 32 MiB and file sizes greater than the 4GB limit of FAT32 and is also supported on MAC. Wonder if that will work with the UEFI, I will have to try it.
NTFS is a journalling file system, which means that it logs changes, not just the end result, causing more writes to the drive. It also logs last access times for files, so even a read causes a write access. There can also be issues with removing the stick. It must be safely removed or you can lose your data.

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29 Feb 2012   #1383
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Thanks for posting. I wish more people would do the same. I think I will find them very useful.
It's my pleasure. It's the type of thing I find useful too and rather than wade through X amount of OC forums for that 'useful' post - a picture speaks a thousand words.

And since a lot of us have similar boards here, it's even more relevant.

And now that I know it's so damn convenient to do so, I'm more than happy to post any pics people want.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
Absolutely!

That looks like a great resource, smarteye.

After my previous post I just couldn't resist the urge to tinker. (And if I fry this sucker my grades will truly suffer... )

Anyway, so far so good at 48 X 100. Temps went down a degree, too.
Monkey see, monkey tinker - and this monkey has seen and tinkered

None of my settings will fry anything, so you're good there. The 5.2ghz settings are good for short burst tests, even with the mega vcore.

If anyone needs a hand fine tuning, feel free to ask.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
NTFS is a journalling file system, which means that it logs changes, not just the end result, causing more writes to the drive. It also logs last access times for files, so even a read causes a write access.

Yep

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There can also be issues with removing the stick. It must be safely removed or you can lose your data.

A Guy
Personally I find it's good practice to 'safely remove hardware' regardless of filesystem being used. Handy for when you forget what stick/drive is using what format.
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01 Mar 2012   #1384
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

OK, so I have a odd ball issue and Im curious if anyone can reproduce it with a i7 CPU.

Yesterday we were discussing OCing, and it seems these posts were lost. But Smarteyeball brought out an interesting point about HT, and disabling may get a higher OC.

I did try it, and for the record x51 at 1.4Vcore was bootable to Windows. X52 got me in Windows but would BSOD very soon afterward. highly unstable. more Vcore would likely stabilize, but my CPU look like its going to want 1.45ish or so at x52.



But, during all of this, I noticed something odd.

With a Normal Overclock ..
My IBT, my scores actually went UP without Hyperthreading.
I also noticed that If I watched my Task Manager during the IBT test with HT On, at 50% load it was touching 69-70C. Once it hit 100% load, my temps dropped to around 65ish ... this doent make sense to me.

I disabled HT, and the load and Temps seems to be in line (68C at Full Load), but Oddly, the actual scores GFLOPS went up by about 8-9GFLOPS without HT.



Running 3D Mark11, during the PhysX text though was a bit different. HyperThreaded run was a good 9FPS higher, which is something as I would expect.


At any count, wondering if anyone else notices similar behavior under IBT, or am I missign something obvious here.
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01 Mar 2012   #1385
smarteyeball

 
 

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I disabled HT, and the load and Temps seems to be in line (68C at Full Load), but Oddly, the actual scores GFLOPS went up by about 8-9GFLOPS without HT.


I'm guestimating that the added latency of the virtual cores might have an impact on IBT's GFLOP count

Either way, welcome to the 5.2 boot club
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01 Mar 2012   #1386
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Meh .. just barely bootable. Got into Windows yes ... but not stable enough to even get CPUz (or in mu case evga eleet) open.

But you were right. At 1.4 a x50 Multi was quite unstable for me. Turning Ht off allowed the same result but at x52

Still, all things considered its not bad. Think 4.8 was my last good stable run within my personal vcore limit. Although it was a bit much for me as a 24/7 OC.
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01 Mar 2012   #1387
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Its like people that collect stamps. To many it seems pointless, but to them its a fun hobby.

Same for Ocers. Sure there may not be a huge advantage to it, but its fun to do.

Though I must admit, Im not as brave as I used to be. For example, on this build Ive decided 1.4 vcore is my limit. Period.
Used to I wouldn't care and would push it for it was worth LOL.
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01 Mar 2012   #1388
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Sweet has a point, I've never seen any performance gains in OCing. Getting a faster CPU or SSD I did of course. Lower latency RAM has helped too.
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01 Mar 2012   #1389
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I run MeGuis x264 encoder, and typically run it with quite high settings for best possible quality. Many are HD encodes as well.

In this particular scenario, raw CPU/RAM speed, and amount of cores available rules the roost. A good stable OC really does make a difference.

But I would agree, overall and for the large majority of things theres not much gain to be had.
There are a handfull of games out there that are quite CPU intensive (usually MT ones) where CPU speed can help alot. But there aren't very many.
And then a few bad ports where the OC can just help muscle your way through poor coding.
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01 Mar 2012   #1390
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Wishmaster, nice overclock at 5.2. Congratulations. But to your poini. I have a 2500K and recently got a 2600K. The first thing I noticed was even with just a mild overclock of say 4.4 during IBT my Gflops were way down. That sort of made me wonder so I turned Hyperthreading off and the Gflops went back up. Sorry I can'y provide the technical reason, but I have read on several overclockers forums that if you want to seriously push an OC, you need to disable hyperthreading.

OH, and Sweet is right for the most part. These machines are fine for 95% the things we do at stock. But, some of us have a problem that makes us want to do whatever we do faster. The best reason I can give as to why is, just because we can. Sorry, but I just can't help myself. Besides, to many of us, computers are our toys. What good is a toy if you can't play with it?
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