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Windows 7: Post Your Overclock!

01 Mar 2012   #1391
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

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For a small USB stick, there are no advantages formatting NTFS, and some drawbacks. Unless you need files over 4GB, there is really no reason to format NTFS. NTFS will also wear out the drive faster. A Guy
I never heard that one - that NTFS will wear a jump drive out faster than FAT.

There is also exFAT, which can have cluster sizes up to 32 MiB and file sizes greater than the 4GB limit of FAT32 and is also supported on MAC. Wonder if that will work with the UEFI, I will have to try it.
NTFS is a journalling file system, which means that it logs changes, not just the end result, causing more writes to the drive. It also logs last access times for files, so even a read causes a write access. There can also be issues with removing the stick. It must be safely removed or you can lose your data.

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Hmm, Seems like we lost some posts last night.

Though NTFS is journaling, and there are some more writes, I very much doubt it has any significant impact on the life of a jump drive. Any file system can have problems if not safely removed, but journaling file systems should be better at recovering from it. L:ast access time logging can be disabled, buit I also doubt that significantly impacts the life.


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01 Mar 2012   #1392
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

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OK, so I have a odd ball issue and Im curious if anyone can reproduce it with a i7 CPU.

Yesterday we were discussing OCing, and it seems these posts were lost. But Smarteyeball brought out an interesting point about HT, and disabling may get a higher OC.

I did try it, and for the record x51 at 1.4Vcore was bootable to Windows. X52 got me in Windows but would BSOD very soon afterward. highly unstable. more Vcore would likely stabilize, but my CPU look like its going to want 1.45ish or so at x52.



But, during all of this, I noticed something odd.

With a Normal Overclock ..
My IBT, my scores actually went UP without Hyperthreading.
I also noticed that If I watched my Task Manager during the IBT test with HT On, at 50% load it was touching 69-70C. Once it hit 100% load, my temps dropped to around 65ish ... this doent make sense to me.

I disabled HT, and the load and Temps seems to be in line (68C at Full Load), but Oddly, the actual scores GFLOPS went up by about 8-9GFLOPS without HT.



Running 3D Mark11, during the PhysX text though was a bit different. HyperThreaded run was a good 9FPS higher, which is something as I would expect.


At any count, wondering if anyone else notices similar behavior under IBT, or am I missign something obvious here.

With a thread per core, there did not need to be any context switches between threads. With more threads than cores, there has to be context switches. Even though with hyperthreading I believe this switching is done in the hardware, it must have some impact on tightly bound CPU thread of execution. That is my guess anyway.
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01 Mar 2012   #1393
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Upon request, here are a few of my bios settings at a small 4.2 Overclock along with CPUz.
The first 2 are the overclocking utility from within windows that will show most values, the second is CPUz while running INR.
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These are bios settings

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01 Mar 2012   #1394
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Willing to bet with the 1.28 Vcore, you could manually put the multi at x44 or x45 and be A-OK.
The OC utilities tend to Overvolt a bit.
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01 Mar 2012   #1395
smarteyeball

 
 

Thanks for the pics Steve.


Vcore under load is fine. But the spike up to 1.320 with the + offset and LLC setting might go partially toward explaining the high temps under IBT. The vcore is also a tad more than needed for 4.2ghz.

Your VTT is also a little low for a 1.65V RAM kit though. It should be @ 1.150, atm it's outside the .5 variance spec (bad for the IMC on the chip)

Raising the VCCIO/VTT also has the added bonus of sometimes reducing the need for a higher vcore.

You might be able to get away with lowering the DRAM volts a bit too later. So far, I've been able to get away with dropping it to 1.6v while keeping the same timings and frequency. But first things first

CPU PLL is okay @ 1.8v, but you could probably try lowering it. ie I can get away with 1.7025 at 4.6ghz. YMMV. (Max you want to see is 1.9v) Although it doesn't have 'that' big affect on temps.

Basically nothing is screaming "I'm overvolting" and "I'm the culprit"

Brings us back to square one....




I'll check back tomorrow with some fresher eyes and a clearer mind mate.


As an aside, one possible issue with your stability on your other board might have been the CR of the RAM being set to 1N. With two DIMMS, a CR2 setting adds a little more stability. Just an idea.
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01 Mar 2012   #1396
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hmmm ... My VCCIO is at 1.05V as well. Should it be raised with 1.5v RAM?
Although Im not having stability issues was just curious.
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01 Mar 2012   #1397
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

I tried some adjustments and passed IBT. Vcore just does not want to go down much it bounces between 1.172 to 1.280

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But this is the problem and with this cooler should not even be close to this.

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01 Mar 2012   #1398
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

I know there are a lot of fellow ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 owners in this thread of late. Thought I'd let you know that there are a couple new BIOS updates available. They are dated three days apart and seem identical, which makes me suspect there might be a compatibility issue with the first one. I haven't tried it yet, but the "Improve system stability" comment always sounds nice. (In theory, anyway... )

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01 Mar 2012   #1399
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

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Hmmm ... My VCCIO is at 1.05V as well. Should it be raised with 1.5v RAM?
Although Im not having stability issues was just curious.
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The Intel DC operating spec for VCCIO is 1.05 +/- a couple of percent and t hat is with 1.5V RAM, so you should leave it where it is.
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01 Mar 2012   #1400
GeneO

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
I know there are a lot of fellow ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 owners in this thread of late. Thought I'd let you know that there are a couple new BIOS updates available. They are dated three days apart and seem identical, which makes me suspect there might be a compatibility issue with the first one. I haven't tried it yet, but the "Improve system stability" comment always sounds nice. (In theory, anyway... )

ASUS - Motherboards- ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3

There is also some issue with updating to 3202 as sometime the Intel ME firmware is not getting updated along with the BIOS. People were also reporting bricked 3101 updates. I would wait a few weeks as I believe they will have one out to fix the ME update issue by then.
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