Need help with cpu coolant for a pc build i am thinking of doing.

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    GeneO said:
    sisrace said:
    ICit2lol said:
    As essenbe says mate it is not that great to have to use that sort of language my friend even some of the abbreviations some use in here I find quite offensive too

    Having said that go the K for the extra few dollars it is wort it I made the mistake with my Sandy Bridge by just having the i5 2500 and not the K.

    On my Ivy I have the i5 3570K and an Intel RTS2011LC which is small neat cool looking with the blue LEDs and is good for a bit of an over clock if you should decide down the track to do some.


    I have a lot of respect when it comes to electrical stuff. So i dont whant to do overclock becouse i am really scared of destroying anything. And why should i have a K if i wont overclock? Or should i overclock an if what overclock is safe with the cooler and how much performance increase do it give? And last. Do it decrese the cpu lifespan? Cuz i really whant it to last long...

    Anything that raises the temperature or increases the current density on a chip will reduce its lifetime, but these processors should last a while. The dominate effect is electromigration, which depends strongly on temperature. With electromigration, the conductive paths in the chip are slowly eroded away by the current, until they fail to conduct or short. This happens in non-OC chips as well, but the chip will last as long as it was designed to as long as you keep it in the manufacturers spec. on temperature and voltage.
    Well I wasn't going to post anymore because this seemed to be going round the houses - on and then off but in any case basically (and as GeneO has pointed out) if you run an electric current through anything from copper cable to semi conducting material - or materials that resist the current flow it is a known fact that this will cause a gradual degradation within the carrying material.
    Plus if too much current is passed through the material it will destroy that material/s of those devices / carriers eventually and the higher current the quicker the degradation / destruction of those materials.
    A good example of a devices materials degrading is the memory blocks in SSD's by the loss of very small amounts of the components through the constant write / rewrite process.
    Why do they put thermo couples in CPU's? - to help prevent that from happening in either a catastrophic or insidious manner.
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       #12

    The Intel i5 3570K will run for years IF you overclock it sensibly. Keeping it under the thermal threshold, and keeping the voltage within spec will keep your CPU happy.

    I have to mention that since we are so close to Intel releasing their new platform, "Haswell", it might be worth your while to wait another couple months and see how they perform. Should be out in May/June.
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       #13

    kbrady1979 said:
    The Intel i5 3570K will run for years IF you overclock it sensibly. Keeping it under the thermal threshold, and keeping the voltage within spec will keep your CPU happy.

    I have to mention that since we are so close to Intel releasing their new platform, "Haswell", it might be worth your while to wait another couple months and see how they perform. Should be out in May/June.
    But eee i dont wanna whait! i have been whaiting to much already... stupid intel... can't they just release them now...
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    Patience. Two things could happen if you just wait a couple of months. A) Haswell comes out and it is the cats' ass and you build a PC using it, or B) Haswell comes out and it's not spectacular and you decide on an Ivy Bridge build and you buy parts cheap. You will either build a rig off the newest technology and have it last for quite awhile, or you build a rig off of proven technology, for less money, that lasts you quite awhile.

    There are still parts you can be searching for the best deals on, such as the case, power supply, drives, etc. I think you can only help yourself by waiting.
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       #15

    kbrady1979 said:
    Patience. Two things could happen if you just wait a couple of months. A) Haswell comes out and it is the cats' ass and you build a PC using it, or B) Haswell comes out and it's not spectacular and you decide on an Ivy Bridge build and you buy parts cheap. You will either build a rig off the newest technology and have it last for quite awhile, or you build a rig off of proven technology, for less money, that lasts you quite awhile.

    There are still parts you can be searching for the best deals on, such as the case, power supply, drives, etc. I think you can only help yourself by waiting.
    Made a misstake with my old comp. A week afteri bought it windows 7 came. And it was 64bit computers out. But no becouse on that time 64bit wasent able to play older games i got a 32 bit. And som time after that it came out really nice cpus compared to what i got. Amd phenom 2 3 core 2,4 ghz. 64 bit ( compatible)
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    I think way more important than Haswell is the emergence of DDR4 and it's just right around the corner !
    But face it there's always going to be something around the corner and for me it's way too costly to be on the forefront of this technology, but for me better to scrounge for sales on yesterdays leading edge and bargain prices.
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       #17

    linnemeyerhere said:
    I think way more important than Haswell is the emergence of DDR4 and it's just right around the corner !
    Its worth whaiting for ddr4 then?
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       #18

    No as I read more it's a late 2013 launch but it does promise a large jump with reduced energy.
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       #19

    linnemeyerhere said:
    No as I read more it's a late 2013 launch but it does promise a large jump with reduced energy.
    When ddr4 comes should i just buy a new motherboard?Or shoud i dont care...
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    When DDR4 comes out, to use it you will have to buy a new motherboard. it's quite interesting technology.
    DDR4 SDRAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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