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It seems to me if we really want to apply juice to the chips then taking that extra step towards a proper double thick 240mm or 360mm or better one chained to a 120mm rad at the rear of the case and a real pump and reservoir is the only logical next step at the end of the day how much difference will all the sealed systems be from one another? Are they better then the majority of air coolers yes and about the same or slightly better than the best air coolers, yep. For you to have those stable temps when pushing big volts then surface area and pump volumes are key.

linnemeyerhere said:

It seems to me if we really want to apply juice to the chips then taking that extra step towards a proper double thick 240mm or 360mm or better one chained to a 120mm rad at the rear of the case and a real pump and reservoir is the only logical next step at the end of the day how much difference will all the sealed systems be from one another? Are they better then the majority of air coolers yes and about the same or slightly better than the best air coolers, yep. For you to have those stable temps when pushing big volts then surface area and pump volumes are key.

That is the point I understand and willing to try better fans it's the only logical step I mean if my temps are nice now how much more can they improve switching fans

I'd rather go buy some Cougars tomorrow and mount them then to purchase a new loop only difference from my 620 khuler from a 920 khuler is thickness of the Rad so I mean I get better fans it might do the trick I mean hell it is right up there anyway and beats out a corsair H80 so I mean how much hardcore can you get besides a H100 or the Kraken ???

If you go with a dual radiator system, I like the Thermaltake 2.0 Extreme for a couple of reasons. It's 240mm(120x2) so you shouldn't have any difficulty with the mounting offset like you may have with a 280mm(140x2) rad, and it's 38mm thick......which in my opinion is the best thickness for a radiator. The Thermaltake 3.0 extreme is 27mm and I think comes with a newer type of fan, which doesn't matter because you are going to replace the stock fans. Also, it's made by Asetek, one of the best water cooling system manufacturers out there. I do like the NZXT Kraken X60 because of the larger surface area and the ability to use 140mm fans, but I wish it had been 38mm thick instead of 27mm.

I really like my two Thermaltake 2.0 extremes and the thickness of the rad is what had me purchase them. The Kraken x60 gives up the thickness for extra surface area and it does just outperform the 240mm rads with it's two focused flow Noctua 140mm fans. For sealed systems the H100, H110, 2.0 Extreme, Kraken x60 are all great dual side by side fan designs and the new Silverstone looks very nice as does the Swiftech is getting some good and bad reviews. All this is fine but as I say unless you crank the thermostat to deep freeze mode your only going to get so far then hit the voltage wall. When I hit the lotto then I will jump in the deep end but until then my 2.0 extremes and X60 are rocking a nice stable overclock.

The only thing about custom WC is the cost, $300 or more probably. I like the Water 2.0 Pro because it's a 120MM rad but 48mm thick so it's like a 240mm, at least I would think so.

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