Haswell may not be a big deal as first thought

Solarstarshines said:

kbrady1979 said:

It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.

That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great

I think Mr Finger III is moving to Intel

linnemeyerhere said:

Solarstarshines said:

kbrady1979 said:

It was easier to get a good chip with Sandy Bridge than Ivy Bridge, and easier to get a good chip with Ivy Bridge than Haswell. Just from getting the manufacturing process down over time, the new batches of IB are suppose to be really good OC's.

That's what i'm talking about brother it's fixed and ready to rock all I need is to get my crap together get the money and im ready to jump into some Intel

Sad thing is could have done this months ago but really was trying to give AMD a chance to get better I don't see that in the future at all anymore let down for sure but they still run great

"Say it's not true" Tommy what is this world coming to?

Allan you jumped ship before me I'm still loyal just I see the performance really is with Intel and no matter how high my clocks go im still getting beat out by less clocked pc's pretty disturbing i'm running 4.8 ghz to still get beat out by a 4.5 ghz machine that's pretty ridiculous to me

Lady Fitzgerald said:

The only good overclocks I've been reading about for Haswells are on CPUs that have been delidded.

Haswell chips that can OC decently without delidding is certainly the exception, not the rule. We may be eating crow 6 months from now if they can fix these problems during manufacturing, but for now it looks like you have to have a rabbits foot lodged firmly in place to get a decent chip....not too enticing. I've read several people ordered a few chips and binned them on their own...the numbers were disappointing to say the least.

And the thought of messing up a de-lid operation is not one I cherish !

I like trying things, but a de-lid is one I would never do.

That is what sucks about all this doesn't Intel look at forums or some of there people

I'm sure someone has brought up why are the consumers de-lidding a product that has cost them 349.99 plus tax and in other countries higher

I mean really would it be that hard to figure out why the heat is so nasty or even go back to the conventional method they used before this boggles the mind

If I am paying top dollar for there performance they should take pride and properly take care of their fan base

They simply don't care to be honest. No real competition from AMD, and being able to save 5 cents per chip is enough for them to justify cutting corners. At the end of the day, it's worth it because Intel CPU's are just that good and we often overlook their shortcomings.

Fu£& it I'm getting haswell screw you amd chuckle chuckle

i have seen a few benchmarks even tho haswell cant over clock high it still beats ivy