2011 or 1155 or 1150

Lady Fitzgerald · 27 Jan 2014

linnemeyerhere said:

It's due in February and it takes volt control off the chip and places it back on the motherboard solving the heat issues with overclocking. If that's not worth waiting then pull the trigger on something else.

Lady Fitzgerald said:

If one waits for the next newest technology to be released, one could be waiting forever. Not to mention the newest technology isn't always the best. For enthusiasts, Haswell was a disappointment over Ivy.

I eschew new technology until its been out for a while since it's frequently buggy. I prefer letting others be the Guinea Pigs.

madcratebuilder · 27 Jan 2014

Lady Fitzgerald said:

If one waits for the next newest technology to be released, one could be waiting forever. Not to mention the newest technology isn't always the best. For enthusiasts, Haswell was a disappointment over Ivy.

+1

I rode that constant upgrade whirlwind 10 years ago, fun, expensive and not always productive. I took me about a year to cry UNCLE! Now I'm very content to be a generation or two (or more) behind the cutting edge.

linnemeyerhere · 27 Jan 2014

I agree but the effects of new on the used pricing was also my point. I wouldn't even think of an enthusiast getting Haswell with Z97 around the corner ! For me I'd suggest 1155 but it's pricing has been bolstered by the lack of Haswell's performance hence my point to wait a couple of weeks for the Z97 Broadwell to hit.....but I've been wrong before and I'll be wrong again.

madcratebuilder · 27 Jan 2014

For cost considerations a i5 3570k, no firm decision on the mobo yet. The asus maximus would be very sweet but it's pushing the new (his wife's) budget

ASRock has a few nice looking boards for the i5, the z87 pro lga. A vanailia asus p8z77 is dirt cheap.

I agree when the z97 hits the streets the 87's and 77's should drop in price. No hurry, my bud is waiting for the war department (wife unit) to cool off a bit before he spends money.

sygnus21 · 27 Jan 2014

While I agree waiting for the newest tech will have you waiting forever, the Haswell chips being a flop is greatly exaggerated. And the 4770K is a better performing chip than the 3770K. Is it blowing it away, no, but it is a newer chip with improved instructions, better integrated GPU (should you need it), and a better memory controller supporting higher memory speeds.

That said.... should you upgrade if you have Ivy? Well, being that both chips run about the same speed, but considering you'll need a new motherboard for the Haswell.... that may be more economics and wanting something newer than pure performance.

Looking at it from a tech side, the Z87 motherboards offer more native features and newer tech than the X79 boards.

Where the real criticisms lays is "heat" as it's said these run hotter than the previous chips, and though they may, it's not stopping them from being overclocked should one choose to. Look around the net, and you'll see Haswell chips hitting the 4.5 range stable without any exotic cooling. In short, they use the same cooling setups Ivy does. If you want 4.7 or 8, than you'd want water cooling... just like the Ivy's.

And since everyone loves Asus boards, here you go. The video is an hour long, but it gives great info on Haswell, and it's overclock ability....

Though the "speed" jump from Ivy to Haswell wasn't the leaps and bounds everyone expected, it's no flop. And anyone buying a new system today would be better served with Haswell. It is the newer chip offering the latest tech.

Peace

Lady Fitzgerald · 27 Jan 2014

sygnus21 said:

While I agree waiting for the newest tech will have you waiting forever, the Haswell chips being a flop is greatly exaggerated. And the 4770K is a better performing chip than the 3770K. Is it blowing it away, no, but it is a newer chip with improved instructions, better integrated GPU (should you need it), and a better memory controller supporting higher memory speeds.

That said.... should you upgrade if you have Ivy? Well, being that both chips run about the same speed, but considering you'll need a new motherboard for the Haswell.... that may be more economics and wanting something newer than pure performance.

Looking at it from a tech side, the Z87 motherboards offer more native features and newer tech than the X79 boards.

Where the real criticisms lays is "heat" as it's said these run hotter than the previous chips, and though they may, it's not stopping them from being overclocked should one choose to. Look around the net, and you'll see Haswell chips hitting the 4.5 range stable without any exotic cooling. In short, they use the same cooling setups Ivy does. If you want 4.7 or 8, than you'd want water cooling... just like the Ivy's.

And since everyone loves Asus boards, here you go. The video is an hour long, but it gives great info on Haswell, and it's overclock ability....

Though the "speed" jump from Ivy to Haswell wasn't the leaps and bounds everyone expected, it's no flop. And anyone buying a new system today would be better served with Haswell. It is the newer chip offering the latest tech.

Peace

I never said Haswell was a flop. I said it wasn't a huge improvement over Ivy and was a disappointment for enthusiasts because of that. Many feel it wasn't worth upgrading to from Ivy. That doesn't mean it was a flop.