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20 Mar 2014
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#1
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Ram comparison With and Without X.M.P!
Before Without X.M.P
After With X.M.P
not much of a difference but not bad considering it took 30 seconds to change in the bios, and its safe! :)
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU Intel G3420 3.2GHZ Dual Core
Motherboard Gigabyte H87-HD3
Memory Kingson 8GB 1600mhz
Graphics Card MSI R7970 TF 3GD5/OC BE
Monitor(s) Displays 21" LG & "19 Vertical Samsung
Keyboard Corsair K50
Mouse CSL Gaming
PSU Corsair CX 500 modular
Case Zalman Z11 Plus (modified)
Cooling Corsair H55, 2x 120mm SP Corsair, 1x 140 Coolermaster
Hard Drives 120GB SSD - Boot
1TB WD
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20 Mar 2014
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#2
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Interesting results but "Before" is the one with X.M.P, please? (if i follow order of the main tiltle " With & Without")
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution 16/9
Keyboard Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
PSU In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling Custom Water Cooling Loop
Hard Drives Internal:
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Antivirus MSE
Browser IE 11.0.155 Rtm
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20 Mar 2014
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#3
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Quote: Originally Posted by NoN
Interesting results but "Before" is the one with X.M.P, please? (if i follow order of the main tiltle " With & Without")
Edited, sorry should have made that more clear!
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU Intel G3420 3.2GHZ Dual Core
Motherboard Gigabyte H87-HD3
Memory Kingson 8GB 1600mhz
Graphics Card MSI R7970 TF 3GD5/OC BE
Monitor(s) Displays 21" LG & "19 Vertical Samsung
Keyboard Corsair K50
Mouse CSL Gaming
PSU Corsair CX 500 modular
Case Zalman Z11 Plus (modified)
Cooling Corsair H55, 2x 120mm SP Corsair, 1x 140 Coolermaster
Hard Drives 120GB SSD - Boot
1TB WD
350GB External
2TB External (Wireless)
Internet Speed 164Mbps
Antivirus Avast, Malwarebytes
Browser Google Chrome, IE, Firefox
20 Mar 2014
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#4
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Interesting exercise, I never would have though using XMP vs. manual settings would make a difference.
If you're up to it, it would be of interest to try the same thing using a cmd window and entering
with and without XMP. Set the RAM as per the label for "without".
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
PSU Corsair HX650W
Case Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
Internet Speed 48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
20 Mar 2014
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#5
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Will give it a go first thing tomorrow! :)
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU Intel G3420 3.2GHZ Dual Core
Motherboard Gigabyte H87-HD3
Memory Kingson 8GB 1600mhz
Graphics Card MSI R7970 TF 3GD5/OC BE
Monitor(s) Displays 21" LG & "19 Vertical Samsung
Keyboard Corsair K50
Mouse CSL Gaming
PSU Corsair CX 500 modular
Case Zalman Z11 Plus (modified)
Cooling Corsair H55, 2x 120mm SP Corsair, 1x 140 Coolermaster
Hard Drives 120GB SSD - Boot
1TB WD
350GB External
2TB External (Wireless)
Internet Speed 164Mbps
Antivirus Avast, Malwarebytes
Browser Google Chrome, IE, Firefox
20 Mar 2014
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#6
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with "winsat mem",
Got a result of memory performance: 22687.30 MB/s in 06.68 total runtime set to Manual...
will try later with Dram set to X.M.P.
EDIT:
With default X.M.P in bios: 21386.84 MB/s memory performance in 06.26 total runtime.
Which can be explained as when on X.M.P it is set "Optimized" but when on Manual i do set on "Extreme" working with my Dram phases.
Otherwise, X.M.P when set to "Extreme" gave me: 22684.32 MB/s for a total runtime 06.19
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution 16/9
Keyboard Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
PSU In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling Custom Water Cooling Loop
Hard Drives Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
Antivirus MSE
Browser IE 11.0.155 Rtm
Other Info "Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
20 Mar 2014
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#7
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tried the trial version but a bit cut-off....
Manual: 19997 Mb/s
XMP: 20565 Mb/s
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution 16/9
Keyboard Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
PSU In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling Custom Water Cooling Loop
Hard Drives Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
Antivirus MSE
Browser IE 11.0.155 Rtm
Other Info "Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
20 Mar 2014
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#8
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I think for a fair comparison the XMP profile should not be Extreme and on manual it should be the timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label.
CPU speed will also have some effect, use the same for each run.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
PSU Corsair HX650W
Case Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
Internet Speed 48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
22 Mar 2014
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#9
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Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30
I think for a fair comparison the XMP profile should not be Extreme and on manual it should be the timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label.
CPU speed will also have some effect, use the same for each run.
Sorry for late answer.
When i did run the benchmark or winsat mem i did use manual settings the timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label, but "DRAM Power Phase Control" was not set to auto but Extreme in the Bios.
When did it with XMP one was default setting and "DRAM Power Phase Control" to Optimized and the second one was Extreme with the timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label.
So i did get first two results, then another one.
1a)
Manual: timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label & "DRAM Power Phase Control" to Extreme => 22687.30 MB/s memory performance
1b)
XMP: timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label & "DRAM Power Phase Control" to Extreme => 22684.32 MB/s memory performance
2a)
XMP: As per Bios default setting, "DRAM Power Phase Control" to Optimized => 21386.84 MB/s memory performance
2b) Yes, is missing result in Manual setting: timing/frequency/volts as on the RAM label & "DRAM Power Phase Control" to default.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
CPU Ivy Bridge Core i5 3570K (Delidded)
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V LE PLUS
Memory G.Skill "Ares" DDR3 PC3-12800 - 1600MHz (16Gb)
Graphics Card Asus Dual-RX480-O4G
Sound Card Creative Sound Blaster Z w/5.1 sound system
Monitor(s) Displays Asus IPS 23"
Screen Resolution 16/9
Keyboard Cooler Master QuickFire XTi
Mouse Razer Imperator 2012 (4G)
PSU In Win C 900W Series 80+ Platinum
Case Thermaltake Chaser A71
Cooling Custom Water Cooling Loop
Hard Drives Internal:
500Go Sata 6Gb/s (x2)
500Go Sata 3Gb/s (x2)
SSD 60Go Sata 6Gb/s
Antivirus MSE
Browser IE 11.0.155 Rtm
Other Info "Raid0" with Intel Smart Response Technology (HDD/SSD)
23 Mar 2014
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#10
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We have to remember the purpose of XMP - to automatically bump "performance" memory up to it's rated specs. Remember the "official" specifications of RAM was/is up to 1066MHz, and anything above that is still considered "overclocked" (I don't agree but...), therefore when a motherboard BIOS detects RAM it basically sets it to the "old" predefined specs, say 1066MHz, 1.5 volts. However say you have some performance RAM such as Corsair's GT RAM ( CMT12GX3M3A2000C9) modules that are spec'd at 2000MHz, 1.65volts, well the MB, using the old spec's will set these at 1066MHz, 1.5 volts; thus your RAM would be "under performing" and you would either have to use XMP to bump them to rated specs, or manually set them to their rated specs. Thus the purpose of XMP is to ensure these high performance RAM modules run at peak performance.
Here's where it can get tricky... some feel that while XMP works, it can also raise other system voltages as well; I know I had to manipulate my voltage setting on my Gigabyte X58 MB when using XMP if I wanted to overclock past 3.8GHz. From that point on, I got into the habit of manually setting my RAM spec instead of using XMP. With my new system (Haswell), I just let XMP do it's thing with my Corsair RAM (1866MHz, 9-10-9-27-2T, @ 1.5volts) as I'm currently not overclocking.
What has this to do with the post/thread... I don't know, info I suppose
BYW I could run my memory benchmark (AIDA 64 Extreme) a few times and get scores all over the place without changing anything so keep that in mind.
My two cents.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built by me.
OS Windows 10 Pro
CPU Intel Core i7-4770K (3.5Ghz)
Motherboard Gigabyte G1 Sniper 5 (F10 Bios)
Memory 32 gig Corsair Dominator Platinum (4x8Gig)
Graphics Card Sapphire Tri-X R9 Fury
Sound Card Soundblaster ZXR
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Other Info Memory Timings - 1866MHz @ 9-9-9-27-1T @ 1.5 volts
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