How hot should the MOBO DRM's Be?

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  1. Posts : 7,466
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       #21

    sisrace said:
    madcratebuilder said:
    Is it normal for the chipset and Vrm heatsinks beeing hot to the touch?
    Temps should be in the 20 to low 30C when lightly loaded. With a heavy load I would like to be no higher then 50-55C. GPU and GPU VRM's can deal with higher temps. Your 8350 should never be allowed higher than 61C. I don't know about the 970 chips but the 990 chip set can have high NB temps, lot of users add a tiny heatsink/fan for added cooling. Some add a 50-80mm fan to the back side of the board to cool cpu and vrm's.
    Attachment 311469
    Why shouldnt i let the 8350 go over 61c?
    Also without overclock the Noctua Nh u14s keeps it at no more than 45c at 99% load
    Why because the chip will degrade going higher The threshold is only that much due to the TDP being 125W
    If it was 95 w or 77 like intel you could take it to higher temps theory here is less TDP Thermal Design Power cooler overclocks Thermal design power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  2. NoN
    Posts : 4,166
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
       #22

    I can feel you insecure and worried about those results.....You've got a very good CPU but an average board that can permit you pushing a little but not enough comparing to your CPU Specs.

    I would only recommend you to increase the Airflow in your PC Case before being too worried about Temps.
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  3. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 64Bit
    Thread Starter
       #23

    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:
    NoN said:
    Yes could be...!:)
    Also... I have been checking out some stuff on my mobo..
    Does the Hypertransport have anything to do with overclocking? becouse this board has 4800MT/s
    Does it mean i can overclock my 8350 to 4.8Ghz?
    Becouse if then thats REALLY good considering this is a 970 chipset that isnt made for overclocking at all but it does support it. So i used to run my cpu at 4.2 ghz but i removed it when my psu whent bad and i havent set it back to the 4.2Ghz even now when i got a RM650W psu

    First of all why did you OC it to 4.2 it does that on stock turbo

    In a sense you didn't overclock anything you just maxed out the stock configuration any more and you would of ran into trouble most boards for that chip are 8+2 phase out of the box it's 4 ghz turbo 4.2
    Saw that it turboed up to 4.2 so yeah. but it went up to 4.3-4.4 when stressing it while it was oc'd so i dont know what its doing
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  4. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 64Bit
    Thread Starter
       #24

    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:
    madcratebuilder said:
    Temps should be in the 20 to low 30C when lightly loaded. With a heavy load I would like to be no higher then 50-55C. GPU and GPU VRM's can deal with higher temps. Your 8350 should never be allowed higher than 61C. I don't know about the 970 chips but the 990 chip set can have high NB temps, lot of users add a tiny heatsink/fan for added cooling. Some add a 50-80mm fan to the back side of the board to cool cpu and vrm's.
    Attachment 311469
    Why shouldnt i let the 8350 go over 61c?
    Also without overclock the Noctua Nh u14s keeps it at no more than 45c at 99% load
    Why because the chip will degrade going higher The threshold is only that much due to the TDP being 125W
    If it was 95 w or 77 like intel you could take it to higher temps theory here is less TDP Thermal Design Power cooler overclocks Thermal design power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    but but.. The thermal threshold of the 8350 is 80c ?
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  5. Posts : 7,466
    Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
       #25

    sisrace said:
    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:

    Why shouldnt i let the 8350 go over 61c?
    Also without overclock the Noctua Nh u14s keeps it at no more than 45c at 99% load
    Why because the chip will degrade going higher The threshold is only that much due to the TDP being 125W
    If it was 95 w or 77 like intel you could take it to higher temps theory here is less TDP Thermal Design Power cooler overclocks Thermal design power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    but but.. The thermal threshold of the 8350 is 80c ?
    incorrect it is 62c max and if above it will result in damage
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  6. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 64Bit
    Thread Starter
       #26

    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:
    Solarstarshines said:

    Why because the chip will degrade going higher The threshold is only that much due to the TDP being 125W
    If it was 95 w or 77 like intel you could take it to higher temps theory here is less TDP Thermal Design Power cooler overclocks Thermal design power - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    but but.. The thermal threshold of the 8350 is 80c ?
    incorrect it is 62c max and if above it will result in damage
    then coretemp and CPUZ is wrong then.. Good to know :P
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  7. Posts : 7,466
    Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
       #27

    sisrace said:
    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:

    but but.. The thermal threshold of the 8350 is 80c ?
    incorrect it is 62c max and if above it will result in damage
    then coretemp and CPUZ is wrong then.. Good to know :P
    With AMD chips it is supposed to be a +10c added to temp from start to finish because it can't be recorded properly because of the architecture

    Pretty lame i know it is semi close now but still off about 10c i usually shoot for max temp of 55c so i have room in case ,I wouldn't go over that because that's when you will struggle to keep it in range
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  8. Posts : 474
    Windows 10 64Bit
    Thread Starter
       #28

    Solarstarshines said:
    sisrace said:
    Solarstarshines said:
    incorrect it is 62c max and if above it will result in damage
    then coretemp and CPUZ is wrong then.. Good to know :P
    With AMD chips it is supposed to be a +10c added to temp from start to finish because it can't be recorded properly because of the architecture

    Pretty lame i know it is semi close now but still off about 10c i usually shoot for max temp of 55c so i have room in case ,I wouldn't go over that because that's when you will struggle to keep it in range
    But if CPUz and Coretemp says that it has a max temp of 80c isnt that right?
    And yeah i know they cant record the temps right but having the cpu at no more than 45c at max temp with the cooler i have is that good? or do i need to change in the bios that instead of the fan going up 0.75% per 1c to 1% or higher?
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  9. Posts : 7,466
    Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
       #29

    it says TJ max 90 that isn't true

    like i said before the Architecture made it hard to read AMD FX-Series FX-8350 - FD8350FRW8KHK / FD8350FRHKBOX

    if you are using a asus board i bet your bottom dollar it will warn you of CPU centegrade if you pass 60c
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  10. Posts : 1,045
    Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
       #30

    AMD reported temps are terribly inaccurate at lower temps, say below 30C but as the temps increase so does the accuracy.

    Different motherboards have different reporting capabilities, my CHVFZ reports the AMD chip sensor, a ROG cpu sensor and a imbedded diode temp for socket temp, plus MB and both bridges.

    AMD has not publish a official max temp. AMD support tells user not to exceed 61C. Most OC'ers well tell you not to exceed 50-55C for 24/7 operation.

    I've run my FX chips in to the 70's on a few occasions and many OC'ers have run in to the 90C's for short runs.

    OP, you have to understand these higher temps decrease the life span of the chip. The chip does not fry at lets say 75 or what ever, but it does shorten the life of the chip. That is why most recommend under 62C or 61C max. The quality of your motherboard effects how the chip runs at these higher temps.
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