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zalith i thought it was the front lol i was like THATS UGLY
zalith i thought it was the front lol i was like THATS UGLY
Zalith, your case is looking good mate! Glad the painting is working out for you.
I still need to finish wiring up my switches while I have time, before I got to college and am busy.....
~Lordbob
There's nothing wrong with the SE14 if you're not planning on overclocking!!!! everyone telling you to get something else is purely thinking overclock!
The reason for my previous posts was to give you a heads up on the RAM clearance as well as my thoughts on the limitation with high overclock speeds… say 3.8 and above. I have my 930 overclocked to 3.52Gig and my load temps top at 73c.
Now you'll get all sorts of people saying those are high temps, but do a little research and you'll see those temps are well within range. Since you say you don't plan on overclocking, there's no issue here.
The ONLY issue you might run into is if you decide to fill all six DIMM slots with tall RAM modules like the Dominators, then you'll have a clearance issue as you WILL have to remove at least one of the Module's heatsink. See here and here.
Again, since you say you're not going to overclock, this shouldn't be an issue with regards to heat being generated from the RAM module anyway.
So, Is the NH-C12P SE14 the best… no. Is it the worst… no. Would I recommend it for high overclocking… no.
However, If noise is a consideration, the SE14 WILL get the job done!!! This thing is absolutely quiet! Even with the fan running at its full 1200RPM! And it will handle modest overclock speeds. With that, I DO recommend it.
As for needing 12gig of RAM... I think 6 is plenty, but that's another huge debate
BTW... Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
My two cents.
Sygnus21,
If I had purchased and couldn't return a stick of my 12gb of Dominator I would sure as heck want to install it. OC'ing or not that wouldn't change......what would change would be the cooler to something that for sure allowed the wicked ram to fit. Is 12 gb needed for lossless music playback .....I can't comment here as I'm not having any issues to my knowledge and ears with 8 gb's with my system driving a outboard Cambridge DAC via my optical out. No matter what it sounds like Janno is headed towards a mean build and all the best to him and I hope he posts some pic's when done! Cheers mate!
Could you please explain this a bit more...what you mean by "my throughput is just not cutting it" and how that relates to the amount of RAM on your box? I'm not following you I'm afraid. It seems far more likely to me that your CPU is bound and is the stumbling block...not the amount of RAM on your box. How are you measuring your RAM usage, are you looking at things like hard page faults, etc?
I'm in agreement with you there. I think extra RAM is being included to alleviate an issue most likely not related to RAM.
Seems to me he said....
He's not overclocking
He wants the cooler
He wants the RAM,
He understands that he will have to remove a module heatsink (if he does 12gig)
Sounds like he's made his choice. All i'm doing presenting him with an "actual user experience" view
No harm, no foul. Cheers :)
@ Sygnus,
thank you for your clearifying post,
you understand me better than my girlfriend right now (on this topic anyway)
it`s not so much playing lossless music (then i just could have bought a disman for just €40,-), as using programs like Qbase, FLstudio with more than a dozen vst`s running all at once, a lot (and i mean a lot) of samples, 3 synths, 4 midi devices and of course live instruments recording all at the same time.
this being said, the new rig combines a great CPU, great RAM, and great speeds from my ssd and caviar black, both on SATAIII
With this rig i wont have to upgrade every 3 years or so to keep up with my own needs.
i cant wait to finally get the time i need to put it all together, ill start a new post when i begin the build, so that you can all enjoy it with me
Grtz,
Janno
Hello Janno.
You'd better remove the part about 3 years before your gf sees it, it may come back to bite you.
i`m looking at RAM as a way for througput of data coming from my HDD`s, and then being processed by the CPU.
in this cycle there are quite a few bottlenecks (speeds of CPU, RAM, HDD`s, MoBO etc.
my current RAM at 800Mhz is compared to my new RAM at 1866Mhz is a great improvement, the new CPU has a greater speed, and of course the SATAIII will hlp quite a bit.
this all adds to a much impoved throughput of data...
in the past, my needs becoming greater every time i discover a new way to be creative, my RAM was the bottleneck, and every time i upgraded it (from 1 tot 2, from 2 to 4) it solved the problem.
it could ofcourse be that in the next 5 years i wont need the 12 GB RAM, but when i do, i have it already in there, with no worries and no need to upgrade.
the big question is, why not??? why not go for the 12GB, instead of the 6 or 8 GB???
i wonder if there is a answer that is not in the eye of the beholder...![]()