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Windows 7: New ~$1,500 gaming/everyday build: Intel Skylake forcing me go to AMD?

01 Jan 2017   #1
looked

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
New ~$1,500 gaming/everyday build: Intel Skylake forcing me go to AMD?

Good morning to everyone,
I know this question has been asked millions of times but I think that my requirements are a bit different.

I was looking to build a Skylake system the usual parts everyone knows, then I found that I'll have compatibility problems if trying to install Windows 7, and I don't want to install Windows 8 nor 10.

So I thought why not Haswell? Well I love it BUT there is no availability in my area (Victoria- Australia) and I prefer not to buy from Amazon and similar sites because delivery fees will kill my savings.

Then I thought why not AMD?
So what do you guys think?
Can you set a system from PcPartPicker? System Build - PCPartPicker Australia

As you'll see many Haswell compatible parts don't have the price which means no availability.
I usually do gaming also many more things like internet, play streaming, some casual ripping/copying and video editing.

So I need the box without the PSU since I already have a Corsair HX 650W PSU, I think it's enough
For the case I like the CoolerMaster CM690 because it's affordable, it has plenty space inside and BIG fans already included.

Thanks in advance for help!


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01 Jan 2017   #2
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Well the only thing missing is a usb3 driver
If you use a dvd with win-7 it should install fine skylake that is
Otherwise asus like other manufactures are making utilities to create the media to install 7 with
Access Denied
Code:
https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1015837/
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01 Jan 2017   #3
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

There`s no problem installing Windows 7 on a Skylake rig, look at my specs.

You have to choose what motherboard and cpu you want and we`ll go from there. We have no idea how much you want to spend on those 2 items.

I suggest an Asus Z170 board and a i7 6700K or i5 6600K and a non K version would be even cheaper.

and for a video card you`ll want at least a 1060, but a 1070 would be that much better.

and I recommend Corsair or GSkill memory, 8 GB`s is OK, 16 GB`s would be best.


Research, Research, Research
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01 Jan 2017   #4
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Intel and Asus still have the X99 motherboard and cpu combination available.

Jack
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01 Jan 2017   #5
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

AMD will save you money, but I don't think that you will get the performance out of it that you will with an Intel rig. I am a long time AMD user, and if you look at my specs, I have a pretty good system (I think).

Problem is, my i7 4790 at work runs circles around it. Hard to justify a new AMD build for myself with that in mind. Your mileage may vary.
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01 Jan 2017   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just my opinion.

You pay less for AMD and you get less.

If AMD worked better than Intel I would be using AMD.

Jack
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02 Jan 2017   #7
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

What he said.
Plus, look at some of the Z170 boards from Asus. (For Example:
Asus Z170-A)

If you can't install Windows 7 on a Skylake rig, why do they provide Windows 7 drivers? Of course you can install Windows 7.
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02 Jan 2017   #8
looked

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Well the only thing missing is a usb3 driver
If you use a dvd with win-7 it should install fine skylake that is
Otherwise asus like other manufactures are making utilities to create the media to install 7 with
Access Denied
Thanks for the trick, I'll keep this for emergency in case the DVD won't suffice.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
You have to choose what motherboard and cpu you want and we`ll go from there. We have no idea how much you want to spend on those 2 items.
My budget is around $1,500 but I can stretch a bit if necessary.

Quote:
I suggest an Asus Z170 board and a i7 6700K or i5 6600K and a non K version would be even cheaper.
I read that motherboards with the Z170 chip have technical problems, but these are news about 2015, maybe Asus and other manufacturers fixed it?

Quote:
for a video card you`ll want at least a 1060, but a 1070 would be that much better.
and I recommend Corsair or GSkill memory, 8 GB`s is OK, 16 GB`s would be best.
Can you choose from PcPartPicker web site?
I think that the 6600K is good enough even if it costs around $30 more than the non K version.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Intel and Asus still have the X99 motherboard and cpu combination available.
Jack
I didn't see any on the Australian web shops.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
AMD will save you money, but I don't think that you will get the performance out of it that you will with an Intel rig. I am a long time AMD user, and if you look at my specs, I have a pretty good system (I think).

Problem is, my i7 4790 at work runs circles around it. Hard to justify a new AMD build for myself with that in mind. Your mileage may vary.
I've read too many reviews and found most of the time people just sympathize with Intel without being able to explain a reason, as well as I've seen too many computer generated comparison tests overall showing better 10-15% performance for Intel without taking in consideration the huge price difference.
And I've watched many gaming screenshots from both Intel and AMD and frankly speaking I can't see any difference.
What I know for sure is that years ago Microsoft was "pushing" its marketing to the edge by saying that Windows is a multitasking OS so I thought the multicore AMD would win hands down, BUT now there is another trend by Intel (and fans following....) that Intel offers the most of its power on one core SO programs would benefit thus AMD is a loser!!
By the way, lets see the parts for an Intel build then I decide.
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02 Jan 2017   #9
looked

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
What he said.
Plus, look at some of the Z170 boards from Asus. (For Example:
Asus Z170-A)
On the PcPartPicker Australia web site it's mentioned but there is no price while by looking at the online store there are too many variants E, M-E, S, P, K, MPlus, AR and sorry if I missed some!
Asus Z170 state:vic - Shopping and Price Comparison Australia - Buy Cheap

Quote:
If you can't install Windows 7 on a Skylake rig, why do they provide Windows 7 drivers? Of course you can install Windows 7.
It's possible and in fact now they provide the tools for installing it.
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02 Jan 2017   #10
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
More than half computers are still using win-7 so most manufactures did make these utilities plus other geeks made ways to create the media themselves too manually
Create a Windows 7 USB flash installation with new drives for new MB's
Updating win-7 is another story
Clean install refer to post #2 here
windows update
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