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Windows 7: Rebuilding my PC Question?.

28 Feb 2017   #1
bluesjunior

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1
 
 
Rebuilding my PC Question?.

As the GPU in my 5-6yr old desktop PC is showing signs of degradation I thought perhaps I could just replace it and therefore keep my costs to a minimum but after the replies I got from my previous thread I decided it may be better just to try another solution altogether. There is nothing wrong with the SSD, HDD, Optical DVD ROM drive or the power source in my present PC. If I bought a new modern motherboard, CPU and GPU would this be feasible?. I did some searching on the Ebuyer site and came up with the following.
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Would these components be compatible and if so would I have to reinstall my copy of Windows 7 or would it be a matter of plug and play so to speak?.

My present PC spec is as follows.
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3 Rev 1.4
CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 Processor
RAM: OCZ 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 5750 1GB GDDR5
Optical Drive: LG GH22LS50 22x DVD±RW DL LightScribe SATA
PSU: Corsair 430W CX PSU 4x SATA 1x PCI-E
Storage:
Main Drive: Samsung SSD 850 EVO 120GB ATA
Back Up HDD: Samsung Spin Point F3 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache


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28 Feb 2017   #2
fireberd

Windows 10 64 bit
 
 

With a 5 to 6 year old power supply it is time for a new (higher powered) power supply too. Consider a modular type as it eliminates the clutter of unused cables.

I just built a new system. I reused my SSD's, hard drives and optical drives. I also reused by case as it had been replaced about a year ago.

New Motherboard, CPU, memory and power supply at a minimum. Your graphics requirements will determine what, if any, video card is needed. My new system is used primarily for my recording studio and the Intel graphics (in the CPU) are more than adequate for that.
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28 Feb 2017   #3
bluesjunior

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP1
 
 

Firstly, thanks for the reply. Although 5-6yrs old the PSU in it at present is more than capable to drive everything. When I built the PC I used the Antec power supply calculator and it advised a 300W PSU and as I am careful with my gear regularly cleaning fans etc the Corsair 430W CX PSU 4x SATA 1x PCI-E is still okay I reckon. Unfortunately the Antec site is no longer available at the shortcut I kept but I found another one and the new parts require 310W. I understand your recommendation of a new PSU but I can always add it if and when the Corsair dies and I am trying to keep costs down. Do you reckon that the parts I listed are a good match or would you have a better solution for that price?.
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28 Feb 2017   #4
fireberd

Windows 10 64 bit
 
 

If the power supply dies it can damage electronic parts. Although you want to keep costs down, reusing a 5 or 6 year old power supply is not a wise decision.
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28 Feb 2017   #5
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

My thoughts.

When one uses just the minimum wattage power supply (300w min. requirement) for a system that only requires a (300w power supply); that power supply is working very hard (75 to 100%) all the time to keep up with the system demand. This creates noise from the fan and lots of heat and a higher wear and tare factor.

Same system with a 600w power supply, will work at about 50% to keep up with the demand of the same system.

A low cost minimum power supply working at close to 100% will most likely put out a very dirty signal. Otherwise you volts and amps will not be clean and constant.

A power supply is the last place to skimp on. Everything in the computer requires a proper power supply. A power supply is the roots of every computer.

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28 Feb 2017   #6
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Replace the PSU! Using one that old is just begging to fry your other computer components if (more like when) it blows. A good new one (not an el cheapo; those are as bad as using an antique) isn't all that expensive. Frankly, it would be stupid to spend all that money on new computer components, then use an old PSU to power them. That would be like buying a new car and running old, bald tires on it (only worse).
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28 Feb 2017   #7
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Bronze series you've already double past it's life expectancy
Here's a 600w at 65.us
CORSAIR CX Series CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Active PFC ATX12V & EPS12V Power Supply-Newegg.com

So yea you've got you're moneys worth out of it.
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28 Feb 2017   #8
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Sorry to be the contrarian but your new cpu+graphics uses 9 fewer Watts at peak and way less at idle than your old cpu+graphics, and I see zero reason to get a new PSU. Your points in post #3 are sound. I think that new Palit card even has a fanless version.

Also, prior to shutting down your PC for the last time before swapping the motherboard, go into device manager, select hard drive controller and replace the AMD AHCI/Sata controller with the generic one called "standard ahci serial ata controller". Before that, you might download all the drivers for your new motherboard from the motherboard website and save them on your desktop. Then shut down and swap out the motherboard and cpu. Then boot straight into the bios, make sure the hard drive mode on the new motherboard is AHCI and not RAID. Also make sure the boot order is correct so it boots from your SSD not your secondary drive. I prefer to not even connect the secondary drive until after the motherboard drivers are loaded and device manager is clean.

A great site for compatibility checking is pcpartpicker.com. See what it tells you for the minimum PSU demand of your new config with your old peripherals if you want further PSU reassurance.
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28 Feb 2017   #9
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johnhoh View Post
Sorry to be the contrarian but your new cpu+graphics uses 9 fewer Watts at peak and way less at idle than your old cpu+graphics, and I see zero reason to get a new PSU. Your points in post #3 are sound. I think that new Palit card even has a fanless version.

Also, prior to shutting down your PC for the last time before swapping the motherboard, go into device manager, select hard drive controller and replace the AMD AHCI/Sata controller with the generic one called "standard ahci serial ata controller". Before that, you might download all the drivers for your new motherboard from the motherboard website and save them on your desktop. Then shut down and swap out the motherboard and cpu. Then boot straight into the bios, make sure the hard drive mode on the new motherboard is AHCI and not RAID. Also make sure the boot order is correct so it boots from your SSD not your secondary drive. I prefer to not even connect the secondary drive until after the motherboard drivers are loaded and device manager is clean.

A great site for compatibility checking is pcpartpicker.com. See what it tells you for the minimum PSU demand of your new config with your old peripherals if you want further PSU reassurance.
The issue is not the size of the old PSU; it's the age of it. It's not a great PSU to begin with and, in terms of computer parts, it's ancient history.
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04 Mar 2017   #10
RoasterMen

Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
 

Yeah Power Supply components degrade over time the more you use your computer.
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