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Windows 7: o/c windows 7

26 Mar 2010   #11
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fastslvblkcar View Post
how do i get a "non consumer" cpu and how would you tell iff it worked as well as i was hoping?
I see from your specs you are running AMD, I usually build with AMD... Look into the "Black Edition" CPUs from AMD. As a rule they're "Gamer" chips which will overclock much more readily than the standard low power chips. They aren't that much more expensive (unlike Intel which can get over $1000)...

The second step is to get into better cooling for both CPU and Chipset. NewEgg has a whole line of specialty coolers, including liquid cooling that will support overclocking to various degrees.

I don't overclock all that much. In fact some of my builds are deliberately underclocked, when I know someone is going to use that machine for a long time or it's going to be on 24/7. I find it's fun to play with but really doesn't give much of a performance boost -- except in the Gamer scenario. Overclocking a computer to run MS Office (for example) is just plain silly.

All that said, if you are serious about playing with this I will defer to the others who I'm sure can provide you with far better information than I. I really just jumped in to support a couple of the others who were cautioning you about overclocking with standard edition CPUs and "stock" heatsinks....


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26 Mar 2010   #12
fastslvblkcar

windows 7 premium x64
 
 

i don't know if you guys know much about that chip but the 965 140w is only offerd on newegg in black edition. maybe different on another site but i bought it on newegg, so yes it is the black edition. and have you guys seen this cooler that came with it. it looks like it would be pretty decent for cooling. i don't want to sound like an a$$ i just didn't know if you guys are familiar with this particular processor.
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26 Mar 2010   #13
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fastslvblkcar View Post
i don't know if you guys know much about that chip but the 965 140w is only offerd on newegg in black edition. maybe different on another site but i bought it on newegg, so yes it is the black edition. and have you guys seen this cooler that came with it. it looks like it would be pretty decent for cooling. i don't want to sound like an a$$ i just didn't know if you guys are familiar with this particular processor.
Yep... it's a pretty good cooler even for moderate overclocks... but what you were talking about is not moderate. The coole is half of the equation here. Heat is the enemy you have to passify if you want the system to remain stable.

Frankly if you're going to push a 2.4ghz chip past 3, I'd be recommending water cooling.
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26 Mar 2010   #14
fastslvblkcar

windows 7 premium x64
 
 

this is a 3.4ghz factory and its at 3.9 currently and probably a little on the warm side bit it runs great. i will get a better cooler when payday comes around though. any good inexpensive water coolers to recomend?
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26 Mar 2010   #15
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

They need a bit better cooler.
140W CPU is going to throw off a lot of heat, even at stock.

Put things in perspective, its using 140W at load at stock settings and something like 1.4 - 1.5 Vcore?
When you overclock that all increases, creating more heat.


Thats going to put off some heat, and thats why a sturdier stock cooler. It doesnt mean its suitable for Overclocking however.


AMD makes good chips, but they do run warmer than Intel (even stock) and if Overclocking even more attention should be taken to keep them cool.

Do what you want its your stuff
Im just saying stock coolers are simply not designed for Overclocking. Intel or AMD.


Water cooling really isnt needed unless your doing some hardcore OCing.
Not to mention, a water cooling kit that worth having are going to quite expensive.
Most newer, good Air cooler will do just as good as the lower end water cooling solutions for 1/2 the price.
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26 Mar 2010   #16
fastslvblkcar

windows 7 premium x64
 
 

what do you think of the zalman cnps9900aled? a little overkill?
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26 Mar 2010   #17
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I don't know much about it.

Heres a great site for CPU Cooler reviews/tests:
FrostyTech - Best Heat Sinks & PC Cooling Reviews


I really like the Xigmatek 1283 HDT coolers. Not very expensive and do a excellent job.
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27 Mar 2010   #18
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

You should also realize that OC'ing a CPU will shorten it's life no matter what you do.

Just cause you can OC it, doesn't mean it's going to last.
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27 Mar 2010   #19
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Also remember that every chip is just a little different and not all of them take to overclocking....even from the same mfg or product line.

I'm also not big into overclocking either, it's generally a lot of effort and extra cost for cooling which typically only results in a benchmark performance increase and doesn't equate to a whole lot in real world scenarios.

But hey, if you enjoy doing it and you like computers, I understand the compelling need to trying it.

I'm running my Intel Q9550 with a very mild overclock to keep it in a 1:1 timing with my RAM. It probably doesn't equate to any tangible difference, but it makes me happy. And I am able to do this on the stock cooler...so that was another bonus.
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28 Mar 2010   #20
jasin

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

That's not a good setup if you are overclocking. I can see why you are having stability issues.
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