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Well it does have win-8 on it Wolfgang that's an automatic discounted os

ThrashZone said:

Well it does have win-8 on it Wolfgang that's an automatic discounted os

Nothing wrong with Win8. I actually like it.

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You guys are too negative. W8.1 is not that bad. Once you got used to it, it is actually quite pleasant.

Just kidding with you Wolfgang it's all good with start8 installed just not as good as 7

Another Start8 fellow. When are you going to learn the real thing.

I love the 8.1 start page and apps page. I have even installed it in W10. At least on a full page I can see things.

That's why we all love you anyway :)
When Microsoft gives me the real thing

ThrashZone said:

That's why we all love you anyway :)
When Microsoft gives me the real thing