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Windows 7: Video card overheats after cpu oc

06 Jul 2010   #11
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post

I also didn't mention my card was repackaged return still was over 200.00 bucks at the time though think that has something to do with it
If the card is actually faulty, then yes it would have an impact on stability.

I'd run a 10-15min test with either Kombustor or Furmark

*NB when you download MSI Afterburner, Kombustor needs to be installed separately.

Whichever test you run, keep an eye on the temps as both will place maximum stress on the card.

Run it at stock card clocks - if the card artifacts (shows dots or flickering) or crashes the PC entirely, then it could actually be faulty.

If it does crash , re-run the tests with the CPU and memory at stock speeds to eliminate any unstable OC confusion.

Alternatively, it could still be the PSU that is running 'out of spec' ie Not delivering the amps it's supposed to be.

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or is it just my 2.8 oc'ed to 3.4 can't handle the response time neded to keep everything going well ?
I'd be more inclined to say the OC isn't actually stable. The fact that it seemed to be okay at 3.2ghz suggests this.

It could be insufficient vcore or the memory speed is just a tad to high for the current settings.

Did you stress test it at all @ 3.4ghz? (Prime95 Blend Mode for 8hrs /memtest86+ etc)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
oh yeah also smartey i read the specs on my psu it powers everything very well sorry i didnt mention this earlier i have alot of devices affixed to this pc card readers blue tooths hubs and such and the psu handles all there needs
Devices like that don't use a lot of power so that shouldn't be an issue.


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06 Jul 2010   #12
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

well if anything im already looking into a new psu and a new board crossfire available so im assuming 750 watt to 800 would do the trick

im going to eventually ditch this board i pretty much heard that this board doesn't oc like it should basicly the board is supposed to be for extreme gamers and oc'er but it has a cap on it so ..... im looking into a more user friendly board which blows ass cause i just spent alot on this rig

but im going to plan this one real carefull though im going to run those test before i totally ditch this board but pretty much i would say in another 3 months im going to config a new one and toss this to my dad give him a upgrade

so im looking to spend atleast another 600 bucks on something worthy especially by the time three months the cpu's and desired board will be lower and the 5870 so i can throw the crossfire together and get some decent ddr3 yeah and i think a new case would be a good idea too ...

so smartey iwill let you know what the test came up with after a few days thanks for the tools
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06 Jul 2010   #13
smarteyeball

 
 

No worries mate - good luck

And a good quality 750-850w should be perfect for crossfire (if you are eventually planning on crossfiring a pair of 5870's down the track)

But definitely take that board to it's limits before you decide it's not up to scratch. No point in blowing extra $$$ when after a bit of tweaking, you could probably make it behave.
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06 Jul 2010   #14
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

yeah your right but im almost sure i have taken it to it's limit the only other thing i can do is get a better cpu but down the line i still will have to make the jump to ddr3 which i think is a little costly
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08 Jul 2010   #15
EpicThorn

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
 
 

Have you ensured that your CPU OC isn't actually in fact, forcing a further OC on your GPU?
Run video stability tests with the PC @ total stock. If it crashes, RMA the video card.
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08 Jul 2010   #16
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

I have tryed all angles the card is fine i tested it stock and oc as well as the cpu

i just think i got to much power for my board to handle even though they say it is made for oc so my last result is im looking for a new cpu and in the future a mb

i can update my cpu to 6 core so im going to roll with it grabbing a new cpu and see if there is a difference i have perfectly fine performance but i would be alot happier knowing it could go a little further

so pretty much looked at the prices for a phenom 2 x6 3.2 black edition is about 300.00 dollars plus change i also heard some cpu's steppings wont allow you to oc further as well so im going to try a upgrade and just hang on to the quadchip in case i have failure

I think at this point that would be the smartest choice i actually have the card oc'ed and the cpu oc'ed from,2.8 to 3.2 the cpu and card are very stable so ....

it can only be the cpu holding me back now if everything else is working without a hitch
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08 Jul 2010   #17
smarteyeball

 
 

Yep, you might have found your current chips 'wall' (pretty low low though).

There may be some other settings you could try, but I'm not as familiar with AMD overclocking as I am with intel, so I'm not much help in that area.

Going for a 6 core isn't a bad move though, since it can be transferred to a better board when you head down that path.

And going for a newer stepping is almost always a good move. For both camps.

(The only time it's not a good move is if you get a chip from a 'bad batch' or they drastically change something for the worse. But new steppings are invariably improvements and not backwards steps)

Either way, good luck with what route you take
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11 Jul 2010   #18
EpicThorn

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
 
 

OC your CPU again, but this time, research what your OC is doing. eg. is it in fact OCing your video card in the process. pay close attention to your volts and ensure your NB is getting enough juice.
I had a similar issue with a mates computer, his OC was good, his video card was good, but combining the two together brought out the gremlins.
Basically I removed the factory overclock from the card due to lack of settings in his mobo to stop the Pci-E Bus being ramped up with the CPU OC.
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11 Jul 2010   #19
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

i did bring the clock down to the default values and still it failed on a oc of 3.4 compared to being stable on 3.2

also i left the title screen of the game up and i would say atleast 8 minutes in it crashed and it was under clocked with the cpu being overclocked so it has to be the cpu overloading nothing else makes sense

sometimes we got to take defeat not all components are made equal or i just happend to get a bad cpu and my stepping is only 2 so ......... what else could it be?
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11 Jul 2010   #20
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

@thorn8369 I also checked my mhz it is actually 3315 and has me listed at 3.2 so in fact i might be like a 3.6 in stead of the 3.4 that is stated so it could be a mix up of values

cause i have 2 oc programs on here but only used one that might also have a effect on my system the correct speed is actually faster then stated right now im saying 3.2 but in reality the system is 3.3 so in fact that may be the answer to all my questions

also wondering why that would be i also checked all the voltages they are fine you know also it might be a headache going through this but it is way better then spending money on a so called tech that probally knows less then I

so im welcoming the challenge but still mystified by the new hexcore chip aka 6 core so even though im still trying to control this beast of mine im still leaning towards more of a upgrade or better chip that will prove more reliable then the one im using now
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